Not to mention prem HH were by far the most common event item. They gave 'em away like candy, and those are
just as effective as the splash-crazy DC's.

Edit: Holy mother of necro

Let's point out how easy it is to kill a sub:

6" shells do 800 damage, surface near a <BB is death
DB's commonly do 8k or more damage
Torp damage to subs is incredible, whether it is TB, SS, or ship


A destroyer atm is more capable to withstand damage than a surfaced sub.

Its obius that SS4 have more posibility to win better sailors more denvelopment sailor,
better torp anda more more durability, faster, more diving time,more restince

BBs splash DID damage ship. sorry to say.

Refer to the fight between RN Duke Of York (KGV class) that FINALLY managed to sink the
Scharnhorst in the northern seas having the night advantage of radar-directed fire and vision.

The scharnhorst never once got a direct hit on the Duke, yet it did effectively punched a
holes in its hull.

Yes, the KM ss1 is so tiny that it turns much faster than other subs. this makes it
easy to circle one and shot out at others who are fearful of hitting the sub I am
sitting on. Works pretty good until I run into someone who is not afraid to TK.

Here we go again...

My god, this is... yeah.

Someone tell me exactly what i'm thinking.... please.

Well let me point some things out about BB's.
1) No SD in War
2) BB's couldn't OH for minutes
3) BB's couldn't take a full salvo from a bigger ship broadsiding it
4) BB's couldn't go 40+ knots
5) BB's couldn't "sling-shot"
6) BB's couldn't turn near as fast as they do
7) US had no monty or nebby in real life. (monty was made but couldn't fit through panama
canal, so they scrapped it)
8) BB's didn't reload in 8 seconds
9) BB's couldn't take 20 DB's before there SD went out
10) BB's couldn't take 18 torps from a sub before there bulge ran out
11) BB's never saw subs before they got to them and were firing at them (except by sonar)
12) BB's couldn't see there target (only was given coordinates by scout planes
13) BB's never got close enough to Cv's to shoot at them.
14) BB's splash damage didn't kill ships
15) BB's splash damage never killed a ship that had only 1 shot left to kill it.

SS
1) Torps do way too much splash damage
2) Can take 3 salvo's from a BB6??-->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYGa9zm7Mo0&NR=1
3) can go 40 knots
4) hmm fill in more, because i can't think of any more...

i sank Kannonfodder in 3 torps in his SS4 xP hehehehe

Yeah nobody "Complains" about subs, theyre pointing out the horrible facts. In RL subs
couldnt take a single shell or theyd sink. So how are they capable of taking full salvoes
in NF. Yes i am aware that NF isnt RL. But the fact is that subs are way too powerfull and
need a nerf BADLY.

anyway to come back to topic. Yes its hard to kill any SS in a SS1. Expecially since SS4
can take some torps before they sink.