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  • vanguard vs lion1 which is better?

    07. 28. 2010 02:53

wingchun
which ship is better ????

*edited title - lanthanide
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  • Re : vanguard vs lion1 which is better?

    12. 26. 2010 07:08

KinLuu
H39 has the best BB4 range.
Iowa/Yammy/Vanny have the 2nd best BB4 range, while Vanny has the superior angles.
A Vanguard can hit a Iowa/Yammy without getting hit herself in turn.
Range is not the problem. Turning force is.

  • Re : vanguard vs lion1 which is better?

    12. 26. 2010 06:37

JayZee
to the reference of revenge and QE(not sure about hood since i do not own one), they
fit nicely in the UK line because of their fire power. It is true that the 15" of vanny does
more damage to other nations' 15" but this is irrelevant since all other bb4 uses 15"+
guns except for mn.

  • Re : vanguard vs lion1 which is better?

    12. 24. 2010 15:46

Ziro820
Vanny 15" hits harder than other nation's 15"/14.96"/whatever. = UK
Vanny 15" has less range than the 3 other original nations. = UK
No one does it but you COULD armor it to 6" deck or so and bounce KM 11"s. = UK
Crappy number of T slots compared to other BB4s. = UK
Still has damn good spread compared to the non-UK BB4s. = UK

So statistically, the Vanny is still genuinely UK. Just the play style isn't as
armor-rushy as you expect. If it's just armor, rush and omgwtfpwn damage on every shot
that you expect from UK, then your skills would be very limited compared to someone who
grew up on, say, the KM line.

Also, if Vanny is so non-UK, what does that say about the Revenge, QE and Hood? These
ships can't armor like the Lion can, they're more or less KM play style too. Should the UK
ship tree be only Renown/Repulse, Nelson, KGV/PoW and Lion I/II?

  • Re : vanguard vs lion1 which is better?

    12. 24. 2010 05:02

Megadone
Obsessed wrote:

*How was that spam. He just conveyed what he thought through a plain answer. If
you want to rage, go rage about SDE.

Vanny and L1 are completely different ships with different types of game play. Yes,
Vanny has more range than the L1 but this allows it to line battle. L1 is mostly used
has a AW'd or rushing ship; 44knts, good spread and 16" shells do pack a punch.*
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1 - back it up...simple as that.....he answer is same as going to US forum and making
a topic best US ship.....and a randome dud comes and post's Alaska !!!

IMO all so your gona have to try harder to troll me, good luck

2 - he's claming Vanny has 2nd best RANGE !!!! IMO, /topic period....
on a side note.....IMO for a UK ship Vanny doesn't belong...nuf said

cheers
Megadone

  • Re : vanguard vs lion1 which is better?

    12. 24. 2010 02:26

andy25
thx zero...true words

indeed jazz!

  • Re : vanguard vs lion1 which is better?

    12. 23. 2010 18:29

jazzmeh
its depends on you if you know how to use the two ships......^^....

  • Re : vanguard vs lion1 which is better?

    12. 23. 2010 17:00

Ziro820
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/ziro820/NF1012231649280921.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/ziro820/NF1012231650190875.jpg

It's not quite convincing but that's all I could provide. Round 2, ring the bell!

Honestly though, the spread really isn't that bad on the Vanny. You people make it sound
like it's the end of the world. Your targets should always be big enough to take your 8
shells with the spread of the Vanny without a problem. You might not be able to peg a PCL
at angle 30 but the spread is completely workable.

350k in the L1? You can do that because of the higher shell damage. Now, try lower shell
damage and produce a 330+k game like this one here. And no, I wasn't using Nelson guns
here, in case you want to be skeptical.
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/ziro820/goodgame.jpg

  • Re : vanguard vs lion1 which is better?

    12. 23. 2010 14:10

Obsessed
"@PugnaxLupus

spam much??

and your statement is based on?....ohh yeah your just spaming nvm

fail troll"


How was that spam. He just conveyed what he thought through a plain answer. If you want to
rage, go rage about SDE.


Vanny and L1 are completely different ships with different types of game play. Yes, Vanny
has more range than the L1 but this allows it to line battle. L1 is mostly used has a AW'd
or rushing ship; 44knts, good spread and 16" shells do pack a punch.

  • Re : vanguard vs lion1 which is better?

    12. 23. 2010 12:48

hidden69
"and yes.vanny has a lil more range then iowa."

nope it has not.

  • Re : vanguard vs lion1 which is better?

    12. 23. 2010 12:18

andy25
wow..350k attack in lion1? u are my hero brad. want a medal for that? 322k in
vanny by my girlfriend and still some shells left and sunken 6 BB 3 CV...spread is
good enough. u just arent allowed to fire in diagonal position to the ship that gives
a shotgun shot.

think what u want brad, i really dont care for that. and if u dont even know things
about range and start to compare what ship is better vanny or iowa..so i would say
u going offtopic. better ship or not, its always on the player and not the ship allone!

and yes, i own iowa, monty and nebby..vanny..lion-2 on second account.

brad..50% of dp left means u lost the whole SD and 50%dp. dunno, maybe itr was
10 sehll hit, i couldnt count that exactly but that punch was a nice hit on my ship.

and the question of the better ship isnt vanny vs. iowa!

http://www.navyfield.com/board/view.asp?
Num=187687&Sort=A05&Order=re_upday&PageSize=20&Page=1&Ctg_1=&Ctg_2=&
Ctg_3=

and yes.vanny has a lil more range then iowa. doesnt matter if u do north/south,
south/north..east/west or west/east. its always a bit more..get it!

i just hope that someone will complete the iowa/vanny test for richards pictures.

and if u cant handle the vanny brad then it isnt my fail or problem. IMO vanny pwns
really. u just need to know how. and yeah i am sure we will find someone else who
played vanny on top of attacks.
me, as KM player, prefer the vanny. i just love the ship and i didnt say that the lion-1
is a bad ship or iowa. lion-1 is just not a ship for me.

how much more range u call a advantage is on your self. but when ppl saying h44
has 3 pixels more then lion-2 and thats a advantage, then would i say that the
vanny has a rangeadvatage on lion-1 and iowa.
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