I like the EBB gneis, fast, good range and dp and so on, but I still can't understand Y do bismarck
double barrel gunz have more reload time than O proj 2's triple gunz(Bismarck has only 8 barrles
together while O proj has 9 :O)?

i love that ship!

bissy=useless..slowlier, less good AA but one more turret
ad...useless, to short in range, a bit smaller, no space, low firepower

ebb-gneis ubber good! very fast, nice firepower, seems to be stronger then normal
gneis..but bad spread for the guns...many options for ship setup..

the only lil dif. from gneis to bissy is the accuracy (acc rev. 75) with the bissy guns.
the spread with 10 10 gunenrs level 91 bve 120 vets seems a bit to much bad. looks
a tiny bit better on bissy (acc rev 78).
with gunners on high 100+ level its good.

I love it with the new gunspace and the bissy dual L's (second set). Its now 0,75
bismark with speedboat engine.

Lovely, lovely ebb and a good option to the doria.

You can use the 3x15d with 1 bind. The speed will be 52 or 54 depending on the crew. This
setup gives you just 13 salvos so you have to pick your shots very carefully. IMHO the
best tactic is to go north or south, wait for your opportunity, then rush and sink some
fat bb5s. This should get you anywhere from 50k to 150k damage.

the O-Pro2 D guns do fit but with only 1 bind of ammo, before the bismark guns
were allowed i was using the first set dual 14.96" L's in the two forward mounts,
allowing me to achieve 51/52knts OH with 900SD, This went rather well using some
binds of both Light and Heavy HE shells but now that i can fit the Bismark guns
(which are infact LIGHTER) i can make anywhere between 52/56knts while having
Bismark range, which i think is a little crazy.

Don't know if bismarck guns are really that awesome on it. But if I'm not mistaken the
OPro2's triples should fit too. Well at least the D version. Can anyone test that?

Now that they have patched the EBB's, I repeat the question:

Why is everyone talking about D and N guns for the Gneisenau '43? ...:)

WTF happened to 340'ish? The G'43 not only gets better guns than it had pre-patch but
picks up speed as well?

This is so ridiculously overpowered now, I am actually thinking of picking it up.

My bad...Should have read the original update post a fifth time I guess.

Jumped the gun on all (which is actually some) EBB carrying next level L's...

"I am confused as to why people are discussing the Bismark N's and D's:

"Also, we have discussed about the naval gun space increases on the new EBBs, and
decided to make the new EBBs can load one ship level higher L guns."

Regardless of whatever numbers have been thrown out about the Gneisenau '43's new R mount
size, this clearly states that it should be able to mount the second set 2X14.96" L's.
That means >345 R size, and they will still be lighter than 1st set 14.96". "

Gneisenau space will only be 340....

"By then, the new gneisenau aa will outperform AD."

Not necessarily richard.

For scout sniping ADs AA is superior, as premium aa guns have slightly more range than
KM40s.

But for shooting down bombers, yeah sure.