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    09. 13. 2010 11:41

Sirianstar
Hi all,
i need to know the values in which deck armour in Lion 1 is effective
for Bouncing.

Does exist some table, or testing, made by someone that explains
how much armour do u really need?

I'm decking 10.1", but i heard different opinions about i would need
only 8.4" , or 9.3" to bounce something...
I tried to search with no answer, armour or armor gives many results many of which
are very old posts of 4 years ago, so i think they could be outdated.

I'd like to defend against 16"-18", and to use (if i'm using too much deck) some
points of armour for both belt and buldge.

Thanks to anyone who will help me.
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  • Re : Armored Lion 1, exact values for deck armour?

    09. 14. 2010 15:03

richardphat
He got 11,5" on his QV by trimming his AA gunners.

  • Re : Armored Lion 1, exact values for deck armour?

    09. 14. 2010 01:43

Sirianstar
maybe he's not using 16" mark III L, but a lighter pair of guns

  • Re : Armored Lion 1, exact values for deck armour?

    09. 14. 2010 01:26

Burebista
"at 11.5 you can bounce most monty shells and L2 shells. "

@ Pinoy

you are telling us that you have put 11.5 deck on a L1?! do you have any support on the ship?

  • Re : Armored Lion 1, exact values for deck armour?

    09. 14. 2010 00:30

Sirianstar
i offer myself volunteer to test armour values, i'm on Yamato, anyone wanna help with
his BBs? the test will be published to try to give exact values to the community and
make a guide.

Pm me anyone interested. I have european times and work by day,

  • Re : Armored Lion 1, exact values for deck armour?

    09. 13. 2010 17:23

richardphat
QV angle is 30, L2 or SY gun could still smash your armour at 37-38.

Nebby/monty 18" could still smash in the 36-37"

EDIT: Of course, that depends on those who AW having different ammount of deck

  • Re : Armored Lion 1, exact values for deck armour?

    09. 13. 2010 17:13

PinoyPower7
at 11.5 you can bounce most monty shells and L2 shells.

  • Re : Armored Lion 1, exact values for deck armour?

    09. 13. 2010 17:11

DeathAddict
Well About Q.V. That Q.V will prolly Come in closer and Kill you from the Belt if he
notices your armorwhore. and Basically you can only bounce if the angle is below 39.

  • Re : Armored Lion 1, exact values for deck armour?

    09. 13. 2010 15:54

richardphat
With 10" deck, expect to bounce all KM BB, all USN BB4 and under, all MN bb4 and lower,
all UK BB4 and under and QV
Else, all other bb5,bb6 will kick your arse before you get in range.

Oh and for IJN, second set Nagato and from Yammy to Amagi, all of them will break your armour.

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(with 10.1" i couldnt bounce h44, thing that surprised me)
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You need about 8,0" more or less to bounce H44.

  • Re : Armored Lion 1, exact values for deck armour?

    09. 13. 2010 14:15

Sirianstar
so with 10.1" i'm wasting precious space?
maybe i could gain 1 knot or 2?

i happened to bounce L2 , not at max angle, but bounced it...
also i get greatly reduced damage even if i dont bounce,
which lets me repair a lot...
are we sure armor is totally ineffective even if not bouncing?

(with 10.1" i couldnt bounce h44, thing that surprised me)

  • Re : Armored Lion 1, exact values for deck armour?

    09. 13. 2010 14:00

TheHelmsman
I don't think you can armor to bounce BB5 shells except the H44's guns. Monty, L2, and
SYammy shells will go right through any amount of deck you can reasonably carry.

You can armor to protect against BB4 shells, however, and I believe the magic number to
bounce Iowa shells at max angle is 8.4" of deck. Using 8.3" will bounce about half, and
8.2" will bounce very few, if any. The difference between armor that is totally useless
and armor that is worth having, in this case, is only .2".

--Helms
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