what was the reason to nerf svetlana's R slots? now it can load only 11 binds for
minizni's, another nerf to already questionable AA...

Even I'd much rather have more T slots in this case.

For a DD, unless you're a DDX, you probably want as many torps as possible. It's fu
playing a sima.

Leningrad

5*130/50
2*76/55
2*4-533

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2940/0780001a.jpg

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1083/c2aef61087271.jpg

We wont be switching T slots into R slots...

If it is not historically correct, then that's unfortunate, but the layout will stay the same.

oh man, just tested DD Leningrad after i read some books and looked into the
drawings, it's tottaly different(armament wise)!

3xR slots should have been 5, 6xT slots should have been 4 at most(actually there
should be only 2)

angus, may you please look at it?
btw i tryed to build up RL setup and screenshot it, but before changes aren't done,
you can't even do that :(

just a little bit explanation, 1st T slot just after the cabin, should be R slot, last T slot
in the upper rear at center should be R slot.

I'm going to post things I find out of place from these ships in this thread in little posts
as I find them...

Bogatyr right now has larger T slots (65) than the Pallada (40), even though the
Bogatyr is a higher level.

DD Tashkent can use the lv 42 7.1" CA guns. Can also use single 8"s. With low level
crew, it can AW with over 11" belt apprently. Not too concerned about the dual 6" as
long as it has DD/CL range. DDX can also use 5x dual 6"s, so I'm not too concerned. It
does make the 6" duals worthless on the bogatyr, not that it matters.

Minizinis can be a higher level, as they have CL or so range with insane reload for DDs.
Good damage too. Suggest level: 42

can some one plz explain to me, why would someone would use bogatyr/palada?
just because of 2x6" triples?
what if there were no T slots... just unify T slots to R slots, so that front and back
guns could be duals or tripples while those unified T slots would carry singles of
same call of what's on front or rear, and problem solved.
you would have decent gun boat or aa boat(if GA's of single AA guns would be
matched to dual's of the same call)

Can the Pallada use 8" duals?

For level 38, 2x trip 6" seems to be a little weak.

DD and CL data has been modified a bit today...

both bogatyr and pallada now can mount the trip 6"... I forgot to ask them to modify the
gundata, so that will happen next round (level etc).

I classed 8 lvl 50 sailors for this test: 2 BOs, 4 armament sailors (later gunners),
2 support sailors (not engineers nor repair yet). In order to use the ships'
displacement properly, I ghosted them removing rookies and experts down to
10 rookie sailors each and 110 to 120 vets. All tests on DDs were made with this
ghosted crew!

Storozevoj (lvl 12)
* DD FCS I.
* DD HEAVY ENGINE I
* 4Rx40. At level gun: 1x3.9" 1939 (6 bins ammo). Above level 1x3.9 1936 (6 bins)
* 4Tx34. DC: space OK. Torp: 45-36Nx2 (6 torps e/mount). Non prem HHx5 (2 bins)
Good speed (38/50 with full crew and fully loaded @1968 displacement).
Don't change anything. It's good as it is.

Gnevnyj (lvl 18)
* DD FCS I
* DD HEAVY ENGINE I
* 4Rx46. At level guns: 1x5.1" 1936 (2 bins) and 1x4.7" 1905 (3 bins)
* 4Tx34. DC: space OK. Torp: 45-36Nx2 (6 torps e/mount). Non prem HHx5 (2 bins)
Good speed (36/48 full crew and fully loaded @ 2003 displacement).
It does not offer any relevant advantage over the Storozevoj other than the
heavier guns.
Only 5 more points of maximum displacement than Storo? Turning force is
greatly enhanced over the Storo's.
Don't change anything. Good ship.

Leningrad (lvl 24)
* DD FCS II
* DD HEAVY ENGINE II
* 3Rx51. Low level guns: 2x3" 1939 (9 bins). At level guns: 1x5.1" 1936 (4 bins) and
1x5.1" 1913 (3 bins).
* 6Tx37. Torp: 53-38Ux3 (6 torps in 3 launchers and 9 torps in the other 3
launchers). Non prem HHx5 (3 bins).
Good speed with the 2x3" 1939 mounts (36/48 full crew and fully loaded @1958
displacement; with either of the 1x5.1 mounts the max speed decreases 1 knot
(36/47 @2064 displacement).
Call it the puny Kita. Those 6 triple torp mounts can wreak havoc at short distances,
Unfortunately, the torps max range is only 10000 at low speed, good enough only
for Blitz, but not GB, where a HH setup would be much more suitable. The R spaces
and available mounts are disappointing for gunning any kind of foe other than FFs!
Enhanced turning force is welcome since it's clearly a torping DD.
Consider providing either a choice of longer ranged torps (around 20000) with
reduced damage (5000 dmg?) or simply increase R space to take a double 2x3.9"
with enough ammo (3 bins). Other than that, it has proven a fun little ship due to
the 6Tx37. One thing to consider as well with this little ship is to provide a suitable
dual 3" AA mount with some 1.20 secs reload to mount on those T spaces. The
current single 3" mount (GA seems to be 42? carries less than no punch!. Any of
these characteristics (not all of them, of course) would enhance this ship greatly
without making it overpowered.

Tashkent (lvl 26)
* DD FCS II
* DD HEAVY ENGINE III
* 3Rx75. At level guns: 2x5.1" B2LM 1936 (lvl 26) or 2x5.1" B2U 1936 (lvl 28)
(both 5 bins). Above level 2x6" 1898 (7 bins)
* 4tx34. Torp: 45-36Nx2 (6 torps e/mount). Non prem 5xHH (2 bins)
Good speed with 5.1" duals (36/47 full crew and fully loaded @2590 displacement).
Regular speed with 6" duals (35/45 full crew and fully loaded @2831 displacement).
Good performance. The 5.1" dual mounts are far from being heavy weights but can
present a good fight; the 5.1" B2U set seems to be a bit more inaccurate than the
B2LM set. the 6" dual mounts come available at level 36 but would be slow
reloading and, particularly, inaccurate. The 4T spaces pack quite a punch for Blitz.
It's clearly a fast transition ship (even superfluous) since the ECL Chapayev is
available at level 25.
Don't change a thing.

This is my first impression of the VMFSSSR DDs. CLs next.