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  • CV Balance SU/MN & others

    02. 25. 2011 15:07

farazelleth
After the release of the soviets I know mailman plans to balance the entire french line
(which is good because its been a long time coming). We all know about the speed of MN
fighters and the bomb damage/fuel of MN dbs are largely out of sync with the rest of NFNA.


Considering how we plan to balance MN from NFKR back to NFNA stats, ironically brings it
in line with how nations perform back on Korea, with MN going from super awesome to
average as intended.


My big ask of Mailman and the testing crew is if we plan to work on the MN planes to bring
them back into line with NFKR nation traits will we also take a look at other nation CV's
since the CV patch. RN for example got totally screwed in the CV patch and have some of
the worst FP stats across the board having lost their NFKR national attributes.
As an example for T4 fighters, RN has worst speed, worst attack power, joint second worst
AP defense, worst sight range, worst fuel and lost top durability spot to IJN. Food for
thought.




DragonStar made an excellent spread sheet showing all of the current NFKR and NFNA plane
stats --->
http://www.navyfield.com/board/view.asp?Num=191641&Sort=C07&Order=re_upday&PageSize=20&Page=1&Ctg_1=&Ctg_2=&Ctg_3=

Spreadsheet d/l link --> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NG8YITJA
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  • Re : CV Balance SU/MN & others

    02. 26. 2011 14:47

V2CxBongRipz
"He said fuel adjustments; He didn't say increase. "

QFT :)

The part when I said MN bombers need abit more fuel I was speaking relative to nations
that will ultimately have better bomb damage once MN's is adjusted, mainly KM/IJN/SN for
DB and UK/USN/IJN for TB.

  • Re : CV Balance SU/MN & others

    02. 26. 2011 09:20

spyboy007
"Big problems I see:-

1) We need to fix Soviets; So much is wrong right now its a joke. Will we get to fix
them after they are implemented?

2) MN; Great that we can balance them. Can we make changes to other nations
also?

3) CV's; Need to be balanced between nations. Just because you went US doesn't
mean
Autowin.

4) Subs/ASW; Need to be balanced (SS3/4 mainly, playstyle is too 1 dimensional),
the
sonar system needs reworking, and there needs to be national strengths and
weaknesses, not just torp tubes and proxy torps.

5) Exp System; Alot needs changing; Bonuses for team based moves; Such as
scouting,
rushing to kill a ship that has hit a friendly ship recently (saviour kill), rushing to kill a
ship that has killed a friendly ship recently (avenger kill; Not worth as much as
saviour), Extra Exp for hitting the objective (Flagship), Extra exp for killing high level
ships; Be it high level subs or high level AA ships. Etc etc.


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All in all though, we should be concentrating on the Soviets. However, do we have
time
and are we allowed to make changes?"


Agreed with every word of that.We do that game gets ALOT better

Also for the MN re-balance I play on EU so I can tell you what there works and what
doesn't

  • Re : CV Balance SU/MN & others

    02. 26. 2011 07:51

ljsevern
He said fuel adjustments; He didn't say increase.

  • Re : CV Balance SU/MN & others

    02. 26. 2011 07:46

jmardlin
V2CxBongRipz I have no idea why you would increase the fuel of MN bombers at all. They
already carry much more than the other nations. That is why they can launch 2 full
flights of bombers and still get to a target. They need to have a lot less fuel. But at
any rate this is a debate for a later time. This stuff needs to wait till after the SN patch.

  • Re : CV Balance SU/MN & others

    02. 26. 2011 00:09

ljsevern
Big problems I see:-

1) We need to fix Soviets; So much is wrong right now its a joke. Will we get to fix
them after they are implemented?

2) MN; Great that we can balance them. Can we make changes to other nations also?

3) CV's; Need to be balanced between nations. Just because you went US doesn't mean
Autowin.

4) Subs/ASW; Need to be balanced (SS3/4 mainly, playstyle is too 1 dimensional), the
sonar system needs reworking, and there needs to be national strengths and
weaknesses, not just torp tubes and proxy torps.

5) Exp System; Alot needs changing; Bonuses for team based moves; Such as scouting,
rushing to kill a ship that has hit a friendly ship recently (saviour kill), rushing to kill a
ship that has killed a friendly ship recently (avenger kill; Not worth as much as
saviour), Extra Exp for hitting the objective (Flagship), Extra exp for killing high level
ships; Be it high level subs or high level AA ships. Etc etc.


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All in all though, we should be concentrating on the Soviets. However, do we have time
and are we allowed to make changes?

  • Re : CV Balance SU/MN & others

    02. 25. 2011 17:11

V2CxBongRipz
For MN:

Fighters, bombers, and scouts need fuel adjustments.
Bombers need damage adjustments.
Plane load time needs to be adjusted.
Fighters need a speed adjustment.
Scouts need space adjustments.
CV turning force needs to be nerfed.

Since it is quite obvious MN bomb damages need to be lowered, the changes to MN bombers
should reflect this. They should have abit more fuel, durability, or speed to compensate;
or a mix of any of those. But not such a significant advantage as they have now.

As for T4 fighters those should be looked at as a whole a readjusted to reflect national
advantages/disadvantages.

T5 scouts need some serious work. Just because you have level a level 120 rookie pilot
dosnt mean you should have godlike scouts.

  • Re : CV Balance SU/MN & others

    02. 25. 2011 15:45

NIborGER
maybe in genreal look at the fighter/bomber balance. fighters are a lot faster, okay but
having more fuel too? furthermore 8-9sec loadingtime for bombers is too short it should be
around 11-13sec.

  • Re : CV Balance SU/MN & others

    02. 25. 2011 15:39

fFoxfire
Well lets go 1 thing at a time yes the test team will be working on French however we re
fully dedicated to soviets and use the current french as a reminder of what happnes when
we dont do our job or a total lack of communication happens.

-Fox

  • Re : CV Balance SU/MN & others

    02. 25. 2011 15:37

spyboy007
Ok i'm from EU and right now i'm playing with a ship they balanced, the Reynaud,

the only changes it needs is Duribility

8000->8300

only change it needs

the last ship to chang is the Duguay Trouin, because:

Well when my gunners got to level 36 and I could use the dual 5.1"/45 cal model
1932, I found out I only put on 1 bind of ammo. This ship needs a buff on its R-slots
from 79->85 which would allow it to carry 3 binds of ammo so you can actully be
effective with it

  • Re : CV Balance SU/MN & others

    02. 25. 2011 15:19

angus725
If I recall correctly, MN balance will be starting with a review of the NFEU MN balance.
We approve of the changes we want, then we start working with MN to adjust them to
NFNA standards.
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