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  • Nelly Vs POW

    07. 20. 2010 12:50

Ozymandius
Which one would be better?
assuming i get the ship tree reset from the event i'm currently going POW, would nelly
be a better choise?
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  • Re : Nelly Vs POW

    07. 25. 2010 12:34

torion
I personally went Revenge line and I got frustrated and did a BO as soon as I was
able to get Nelson. That eased the pain as, at level, it is a far superior ship IMO. But
the scoutless grind to L1 is a harsh one towards the end and it gets frustrating
when you realize most people have wizened up and shoot the nelly before it can get
in too close.

  • Re : Nelly Vs POW

    07. 25. 2010 00:32

seradish
@Ozymandius

Depends entirely on the guns. With the set-ups I suggested (trip 16 Ls and quad 14 Ns),
the Nelly does have significantly farther range than the PoW. You need to use the Ns of
the quad guns because those are the ones with the godly blockshot. The only downside to
them is that they have BB1 range.

The 16s have enough range for you to fight on par with BB4s, and some BB5s. If you compare
the two, that's a significant difference. So the answer is yes, the Nelson outranges the
PoW by a longshot, so to speak.

That's not to say that the PoW is worse than the Nelson though. At 47 knots (with good
engineers), you can easily close the distance between you and your target and sink them.
If you trust your aim, you can sink any ship with 2-4 shots.




PS: Try not to listen to any talk about how crappy some ships are. Yes, various ships are
severely gimped compared to others in the same tier, but in the end it's completely up to
the player and his/her team to make the game.

  • Re : Nelly Vs POW

    07. 24. 2010 14:35

SylverXI
I did both ship simultaniouslly and found both to be crappy BB's. With nelson you need
to chase the "light" and shoot from a distance or rush and cause major damage. The
PoW's L guns are one of the crappiest guns out there. Have same range as Nelson but
with the bad spread, they barelly did much damage. The best way I found to use Pow
was by using the N guns that shoot MAJOR BLOCK SHOTS but have really bad range.

Although u have a scout on that ship, it has no range to shoot anything it sees. With
PoW you have to play like a crazy suicidal person. In witch with Nelson you can be or
suicidal or hold a line and shoot and actually hit the things you see, unless you don't
see.

My suggestion is for you to save that BO reset and use it on two lines with higher
diffrences like OPro2 VS Bissy. to me, both ships are crappy in their own way...

  • Re : Nelly Vs POW

    07. 24. 2010 13:20

HeroesWar
I would rather use Nelly over Pow unless you are good with aiming your just food for
everything else.

Rushing into a team of BB4/5/6 with Pow guns = death

  • Re : Nelly Vs POW

    07. 24. 2010 00:28

Ozymandius
Thank you seradish, but one question. Does the nelson have significantly farther range
than the POW?

  • Re : Nelly Vs POW

    07. 23. 2010 14:42

Megadone
@KausCl

BB3.

BB4 are L1 and Vanny.

cheers
Megadone

  • Re : Nelly Vs POW

    07. 23. 2010 09:08

KausCl
I have both ship too... and the better ship depend of your game style.

Nelly with 16" L is a defensive ship. Great damage, great range but low speed. My best
mark in this setup is 180k

Nelly with 14" N would be a rush ship, but you must wait for scout and have enought
patient for enter in a enemy ship range (you wouldn't exit of that range). My best mark in
this setup is 220k

PoW with 14" N is a rusher. Good speed, good spread, can sunk BB3 and BB4 and maybe some
BB5 enter and exit of range. My best mark in this setup is 170k

Maybe im not a good player for PoW... both of them are good BB4.

  • Re : Nelly Vs POW

    07. 21. 2010 15:30

seradish
Let's break all this down shall we? Not as if this hasn't been done before...


Guns:

Nelson can equip the lvl 80 trip 16 Ls, compared to the quad 14Ns of the PoW (assuming
you're using those), have both greater range and damage per shell. The 14s win in terms of
shell spread, as they are already capped at level assuming you have decent gunners. The
16s will occasionally land a full salvo on your target, and when coupled with the range of
the Ls they allow you to fight on par with most BB5 drivers.

Note: If you miss with the 14s, it's almost entirely your fault, where as the 16's spread
will always be terrible, even with 120 gunners. The 14s also trump the 16s in damage per
SALVO, as you will likely be hitting the target will all of your shells, as opposed to
landing 2-6 average with the 16s.

Engines:

There is no doubt that the PoW is faster than the Nelson. The fastest (decent) set-up I've
managed with the Nelly is 42-44 knots OH, which completely loses out of the PoW's 47
knots. However, the Nelson's lack for a need of a scout opens up the potential for an
extra engineer, which could give you more OH.

Ship style:

In terms of optimzed play style, the Nelson is considered a "Line Fighter", while the PoW
is a "Rusher." A line fighter will follow the battle lines, imaginary lines bordering the
"No Man's Land" between enemy BBs. This is mostly a defensive position, for defensive
players. A rusher is a BB that breaks the lines and attacks the enemy BBs head on, which
is considered an offensive position.

Mainly, the lack of a scout on the Nelson mean's it can't effectively rush an enemy, while
the lack of range on the PoW means it makes a poor line fighter. Likewise, the Nelson's
main three triple turret set-up helps with the line role, while the PoW's speed obviously
makes it a better rusher.

I'm not going to bother touching on AW set-ups and various others, because I view them as
more of for "recreational" playing. I find that the information I mentioned above is best
for average, everyday grinding.

  • Re : Nelly Vs POW

    07. 21. 2010 14:42

haroT3k
highly depends on crew. if you've got 115+ gunners, then the 16"L are devastating,
dealing as much damage as a lion1 with a tighter spread (all 3 turrets are placed next
to each other) both ships lack range, but the PoW makes up for this with a whopping
47knt over heat where as the nelly is fairly slow. I however find that im not the biggest
fan of the 14"N. Yes they block easily, but it also makes it more of hit or miss gun, and
it seems to bounce off ships more easily than the 16".

  • Re : Nelly Vs POW

    07. 21. 2010 10:12

Ozymandius
Im need speed and range, but not only range and no speed or vise versa, i think i'll
stay POW
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