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  • Guide not only to the US subs

    08. 27. 2010 02:20

pnov
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CONTENTS
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1 Introduction

2 Common knowledge

3 Compulsory crew requirements
3.1 Bo
3.2 Torpers
3.3 Engineers
3.4 Sonarman
3.5 Planesman

4 Optional crew
4.1 Gunner
4.2 Repairer
5 Getting a submarine

6 Basic game strategy

7 US ship specifics
7.1 Being aware of your enemy

8 Picture analysis
I.Exposed side
II.Defensive rear torping
III.Targeting the wrong BB
IV.Crossing ships
V.Firing all tubes at once
VI.Splash hitting running ship
VII. The proper positioning
VIII. Chasing wrong ship
IX.Surface around unarmed ships to regain air
X.Be aware of zones you can't attack/defend
XI.Use clouds to your advantage
XII.Be aware of battle condition
XII.Dealing with KM subs

9 Gif analysis
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  • Re : Guide not only to the US subs

    09. 15. 2010 06:01

pnov
I thought about posting this in other section, but decided to do so here because: if I
were to post it in T&T, I felt it would be necessary to include insight on more than one
nation. Given the fact I have variety of subs from 4 nations and I decided to provide
insight into only one of them I feel placement is approperiate.

If you are referring to the parts common for all, I don't see anyone moving LK's guide to
ASW while it contains roughly same amount of nation specifics and common knowledge as this
piece.

  • Re : Guide not only to the US subs

    09. 14. 2010 11:10

fFoxfire
Lan is right its and overall guide so I may just move it to Tips and Tactics. My personal
Guide I care not for I just had to overdo Lan's for a few reasons. I will think about this.

-Fox

  • Re : Guide not only to the US subs

    09. 14. 2010 01:18

lanthanide
Truthfully, I won't mind my own guide to get nuked. I can no longer help you
because of certain "infractions" of my own doing. Yours looks way better but is in
the wrong forum. Had you made a pure US one, it would replace mine and fox's
collaboration.

Lanthanide

P.S.
Do ask fox to stick yours over mine. Mine has outlived it's usefulness.

  • Re : Guide not only to the US subs

    08. 31. 2010 00:28

pnov
Here's a reply:

First, the guide contains some typos. This originated when I wrote it in word processor
and copied it in here. To be specific, the " sign (or something like that) was replaced by
questionmark. I would not go into fixing it because whole structure would break.

Second, I like some of you like this.

Third, to the part of reporta and humping:
This is connected to NFEU and one of their game rules: it says you can't hump a ship that
has no emplacements for guns. The problem is a low level CV can't get those guns but here
we are all being forced to play all together with a variety of ships that can't be
standing against eachother due to the game concept. It is rather obvious that Efusion
(they run NFEU) fails even more than SDE running NFNA (and even more at their tank game).

Because the game doesn't have the playerbase to use concept of battles of ship of the same
class, everyone if being forced to play with everyone because everyone goes where the most
XP is (you get more than double XP for same attack in GB than you would get in BB room,
not to mention the difficulty of scoring the attack in BB room). Yet the concept of
everyone playing with everyone was working only for the first 4-5 months of beta while
people in BB's didn't achieve certain level of crew ability and were simply unable to
shoot everyone at max range.

Since SDE employees haven't realized this in 5 years and suggestions such as ability
capped battles that would cap the performance of every sailor and enable the low level
people to play with high level people in normal rooms without the problem of facing their
crew's suckiness were happily ignored (or they don't know how), everyone has to play with
everyone. How come no zoo puts lions, tigers and jaguars in one cage. The reasons are
obvious.

I also wrote that because one of the last times I was among the participants of noobkrieg
running in County and alone gunning down 5 CA's, I was called a noob because I didn't go
to point-blank fictory with them. There is no reason to believe these people will change
when they get to the GB and game chat occasionally provides some entertainment regarding
the humping matter.

Forth, about the prioritizing of enemy ships:
While it is good to destroy ships that would scout you, the DD in described case cannot be
sunk because it is too far, it is running away and can get out of the torpedo range. The
SS cannot do anything about it. The only hope of survival is to destroy the BB.

Fifth, about the lack of attention:
Nobody nuked the less usefull stickied guide. Watch me to post explosive content in GD
regarding the Sink the beast. I bet it won't stay there for an hour.

  • Re : Guide not only to the US subs

    08. 28. 2010 17:04

ioh1
Awesome work pnov, let큦 me think to stop lvl my sub crew on the ebb.
Request to be a sticky.

  • Re : Guide not only to the US subs

    08. 28. 2010 11:22

alche
About priorities, Is kinda obvios that u should target high tier bbs, however, u may find
that hunting down the dd escorta or the ASW ships near you might be better than directly
going towards the bb/cv.
Having them blind will actually help you and your team cos even if they avoid you, they
will be circling around instead of shooting at your team bbs.

  • Re : Guide not only to the US subs

    08. 28. 2010 11:05

TheHelmsman
This should be stickied. Useful and informative, and also provided me with many lulz. Well
done, pnov!

--Helms

  • Re : Guide not only to the US subs

    08. 28. 2010 10:28

PringleMan5
What he was referring to was the fact that there exist some players that think you should
play "fair." This means you do not drop bombs on ships that do not have AA, or hump
carriers because they typically do not have guns mounted. There are other things too but
those are the two most common, and they are both silly. If you as a carrier do not have
guns and something small that poses a real threat has gotten near you then A) Your team
has failed and B) The other team bested you, get a life.

Anyways GREAT guide because I am working on a KM SS crew right now and this is exactly the
sort of tactics guide that I have been needing. I still have a few levels before I can
start the SS grind, but this should be a great help.

  • Re : Guide not only to the US subs

    08. 27. 2010 04:10

quietcos
"Be prepared to be reporta'd because some people won't mount guns and whine when you come
close such as don't bomb ships without AA, don't hump CV's without guns."
Huh?

BTW Nice guide, thanks. I'm new at SS playing, and I appreciated your illustrated
explanations. I'll save my rec until I test you theories :)

  • Re : Guide not only to the US subs

    08. 27. 2010 02:21

pnov
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