Under the old caps a +10 KM gunner with the standard 100vets/boost/full experts capped at
level 64. (see the guide on true ability in tips and tactics) 11 or 12 is not far behind,
something like 60-62. With the new caps push all that back atleast 5 levels but probably
more like 6-8.

Under the old caps, the 11 acc would cap in blitz ( at 58- 59 iirc), so that makes it
possible the 10 acc might also have capped.
With the new acc cap it's anyone's guess when bve 11 acc gunners reach the cap.

With normal 11/11 or 10/10 gunners BVE with 100 vets you dont cap until atleast the mid 60s.

Note that my KM gunners were a bit above EBVE ( event ftw. started my KM crew around the
multiple weekend of xp and vet boost on NY "sorry we crashed the server" and used
independence day weekend too.)

So with lvl 50ish 150 vets EBVE gunners I had awesome spread since I had reached the acc
cap. With simply BVE, I would think you have to wait 3-4 more level to get similar result.
At lvl 55-56 I'd guess the acc cap will be reached and you'll have decent spread also.
Note that at angle 35+ you keep a slightly random factor till 60.

If you feel like it, throw the 8" Ds on your Mpro till lvl 55. Still lots of fun =D

>And having level 80+ gunners on the Dland? I just don't see the point of doing
>it when I could be on a PBB or BB3.

Dland is an amazing AA ship. Without removing the 280mm trips, it really becomes a ship to
deal with when your crew is at 80+. It's all for the fun factor.

When I got my D land, my gunners were around lv 65-70, and the spread was good.

I did start with 10/10 gunners that were lv 60 or so when I started my KM crew. Had the
gunners left over from a sydiltz grind I did in 08.

When I started playing again last year I got my D-Land, after lusting after her since Beta
days. My gunners were far worse than yours and I frustratingly encountered the can't hit
the broadside of a barn spread. To the point that you could properly aim at a large BB and
have every single shell straddle the ship. But more to the point now that my crews are in
the low to mid 60s spread is quite usable w/ my crappy crew (thankfully I got some vet and
expert pack drops). Same thing in my P-Pro as well.


Best thing you can do for now is stick the 88mm AA guns in your T-slots and go AAW in GB2.
It is excellent practice for learning how to do AA, you are actually doing your team a
service by swatting planes out of the sky, and it is a good money maker. Plus a D-land is
a bit more stealth as a AAW boat.... people know to look for a Moltke or an Emden...
D-land not so much.

If you think thats bad wait until BB1. One thing you will not see unless you also have a
Prinz BO is that your spread is better on the Dland with the same gunners.

-_-. I read Splidd's topic on the issue and he stated that level 53 BVE gunners were
sufficient to achieve acceptable spread... It seems that in my situation, it wasn't the
case. And having level 80+ gunners on the Dland? I just don't see the point of doing
it when I could be on a PBB or BB3.

I had 12/10 BVE gunners with less than 10 recruits on them when hand my d land;
the spread was acceptable at lvl, and got really nice about lvl 50. In Hobbit war it
really shouldn't matter much at range, everyone rushes like nubs anyways, make for
easy farming