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    06. 24. 2012 11:00


jjws

I've been thinking about getting a 2nd BB line and KM is on my list but I'm kind of hesitant due to  things i heard and experienced about KM BBs. Is it worth getting one of these?

(plz say more than just yes or no)

 

  • Re : KM BB?

    06. 24. 2012 12:19


phantom3553

KM BBs are hard to drive at first especially the h44, and km shells are not that great in damage but if you play km correctly your hardly to reach with km range...

 

  YES... go get a km bb :)

  • Re : KM BB?

    06. 24. 2012 22:48


darklegends8

Only if you want the challenge.. I have a KM BB crew because I was stupid when I started.

  • Re : KM BB?

    06. 25. 2012 03:26


McTass

I like km bbs from 1 to 4, they are hard to play in GB, and they are really not suited for nightbattles, but on select mode they can be very effective.

H44 atm is really hard to play. L2 for example have just 1.5 dot less range, but much more resistance, smaller hitbox, 1 more support slot, much more dmg, even with only the 2 front turrets can hit harder, and a 2 turrets L2 can be AW (owning noobs in gb) or just outspeed you...

and in the h44 is really hard to get the speedcap, im running 4 engineers lvl 108,107,106,102 with 150,140,150,170 vet, max esperts, all bosted and i'm still stuck to 38knot....... to use one national advantage that is AA you have to sarifice 2 support sailors.

Anyway H44 has a problem with damage but on test server are tryng to fix it.

  • Re : KM BB?

    06. 25. 2012 08:31


Mezak76

About KM BBs.....

As McTass said H44 is a really hard ship to play. It have..maybe zero charateristics to use it against ohters tier 5 BBs, and also if a prefered target for high level DB´s.
There are also other points about KM ships that I like to expose here.

EXPERIENCE
I didn´t have an answer for one question.
During last event I use PBB Km and RN, and note that with almost same damage deal with both ships (about 90K) the exp recieved is too different.
With KM PBB -> about 55-65 K
With RN PBB -> about 105-120 K

Why dealing the same damage AD have too less reward in expereince comprared to RN, in this case?

Taking Damage:
Compared to other nations BB, KM and IJN are the most weak in this point. In particular case KM BB´s seems like they atract DB´s as flies

About BO:

Most player know that any sailor can be used as Bo in certain ships, like  PCA, PBB and event ships. 
In AD PBB ships I found that if and ENG is used the aiming lines are the same or even larger that any BO, or any other sailor que high potential (planesman, Sonar).

 
 

  • Re : KM BB?

    06. 25. 2012 10:04


McTass

forgot about a pair of things...

Experience at high levels are based mostly on your personal attack. as km your role is to push the enemy, but this is often going to give you low exp.

while you push there will be probably a teammate rushing with a bb faster than your (h44 is one of the slowest bbs in the game...), this hardhitter will probably steal your food get most of the attack and so experience. you'll get low exp.

if instead your team is failing your low dmg guns, low speed low resistance don't gives you much chances against lots of bbs... and then low exp for you again.

 

Credits, the h44 is the most expensive bb5 to repair, iirc 9,5k vs a 6,5 k of L2... in many games you ill not receive enough credits even to repair the h44, resulting in a loss :O

3k isn't a lot for 1 game or rich player.... but think about those who take this as first line. 1000 battles where you gain 3k less than an uk it's a 3M loss

  • Re : KM BB?

    06. 26. 2012 07:54


jjws

After reading these comment i guess it would be best to push my KM back untill i have some other well working crews. I might take the CV or SS not sure yet. But after reading this i think that KM BB is just not woth it for me at this point.

Thanks to you all for your insight and help.

  • Re : KM BB?

    06. 26. 2012 10:05


Mezak76

Originally Posted by jjws

After reading these comment i guess it would be best to push my KM back untill i have some other well working crews. I might take the CV or SS not sure yet. But after reading this i think that KM BB is just not woth it for me at this point.

Thanks to you all for your insight and help.



I do the same 6-7 weeks ago. have no point to use H44 for me if that ship is the prefer target for anyone else, because don´t scare anyone.

When new guns where available will try again. 

  • Re : KM BB?

    06. 26. 2012 12:52


phantom3553

 

@mezak

 

km AD is not that bad, i always got 90k-140k attack when i still used it before

 

it got nice turn rate which make AD easier to dodge incoming shells

fast reload enemy shoot once but you already shot them twice

semi block guns

small hitbox

it got nice speed i used to have 40 knts but my sailor gone fat now its 39 rofl

 

 

  • Re : KM BB?

    06. 27. 2012 23:52


aingeal

Originally Posted by phantom3553

 

@mezak

 

km AD is not that bad, i always got 90k-140k attack when i still used it before

 

it got nice turn rate which make AD easier to dodge incoming shells

fast reload enemy shoot once but you already shot them twice

semi block guns

small hitbox

it got nice speed i used to have 40 knts but my sailor gone fat now its 39 rofl

 

 

 

 

You know balance got thrown out of the window somewhere, when suddenly the monster of OPedness that is the KM AD becomes "not that bad".

 

 

As far as H44 goes, the ship is very fine as it is. The issue has never been the ship, but players expecting a mile range advantage while its truly not only that.

Richard is trying to fix consistency mainly, but I'd be rather disappointed if suddenly the thing started hitting for 50k.

 

My sole complain about KM is AP effectiveness.

So is KM worth it? heck yes. Now the question is can you handle it or not. It IS much less forgiving of your shortcoming as a driver than an L2 can be.

  • Re : KM BB?

    06. 28. 2012 01:11


McTass

Originally Posted by aingeal

As far as H44 goes, the ship is very fine as it is. The issue has never been the ship, but players expecting a mile range advantage while its truly not only that.

 

a bb5 that can do 20k for a full salvo it's fine? o.O

a bb5 that can see his shells bounced at max angle by a KGV it's fine?

clearly not.

people is expecting range because KM is the range nation and all other tiers have almost next tier range. h44 range can then be consired an issue.

for example a h44 vs a 2 turrets speed L2 doesen't stand a single chance, assuming equal skill of the player this L2 can semi-sling with the only front guns that are off the centre like the h44 front, at a far higher speed, and still hitting harder. the 1.5 dot diadvantage is negated by the slim profile. this battle will results in L2 pushing h44 to the border and win if they are both well skilled, if not the L2 will just rush and win.

not to take in consideration that h44 has the worst spread...

A skilled h44 player wins because there's lots of noobs in bb5 in GB. But put an equal skilled player on an another BB5, you will se the result. at the moment h44 have a lot more disadvantages than advantages.

I also wrote about experience gain and credits. why a bb5 should have far less than other bb5?

No, this ship is not fine as it is.

 

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