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  • Some Neutral Ship Possibilities

    09. 15. 2012 12:35

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PictWarrior1

Why not use ships of smaller WWII nations as Neutrals?

For example:

 

BB and BC - Battleship and Battlecruiser

 

Yavuz class (Turkey)                5 - Dual 11" 50cal / 23,100 tons

1047 class (Dutch)                  3 - Triple 11.1" (45, 50, or 54.5 cal)  / 27,500 - 29,251 tons

Minas Gerais class (Brazil)         6 - Dual 12" 45cal / 19,200 tons

Rivadavia class (Argentina)       6 - Dual 12" 50 cal  / 27,500 tons

Almirante Latorre class (Chile)  5 - Dual 14" 45cal / 25,000 tons

 

 

CA - Heavy Cruiser

 

Sverige class (Sweden)                  2 - Dual 11" 45cal / 7,185 tons

Shropshire class (Australia)            4 - Dual 8"  50cal / 9830 tons

Vainamoinen class (Finland)           2 - Dual 10" 46cal / 3900 tons

Norge class (Norway)                     2 - Dual 8.2" 44cal / 4166 tons

Dhonburi class (Siam)                    2 - Dual 8" ?cal / 2265 tons

General Belgrano class (Argentina)  5 - Triple 6" 47cal / 10,234 tons

Pueyrredon class (Argentina)          2 - Single 10" 40cal  / 6840 tons

Capitan Prat class (Chile)               4 - Single 9.4" 30cal / 6902 tons

 

 

CL - Light Cruiser


Hobart class (Australia)                          4 - dual 6" ?cal / 7105 tons

Adelaide class (Australia)                     9 - Single 6" 50cal / 5100 tons

Ontario class (Canada)                           3 - Triple 6" ?cal / 8000 tons

De Zeven Provincien class (Netherlands)  4 - Dual 5.9" ?cal / 8350 tons

Java class (Netherlands)                        10 - Single 5.9" 50cal / 6670 tons

Galacia class (Spain)                              4 - Dual 6" 50cal / 8250

Mendez Nunez class (Spain)                   8 - Single 6" 50cal / 4680 tons

Almirante Brown class (Argentina)         3 - Dual 7.5" 52cal / 6,800 tons

Barrosa class (Brazil)                             6 - Single 6" 50cal / 3450 tons

Bahia class (Brazil)                              10 - Single 4.7" 50cal / 3000 tons

 

What do you think?  I can post more info on each if you want.  Not from wiki though.  I use "Jane's Fighting S

 

  • Re : Some Neutral BB Possibilities

    09. 15. 2012 13:04


Tomm96

Would be like the same thing to put in Swedens past Battleships (or as Sweden call them Pansarskepp)

  • Re : Some Neutral BB Possibilities

    09. 15. 2012 13:18


PictWarrior1

For Sweden, you'd have to dig back to their WWI BBs like the Sverige class which only had 2x Dual 11inch 45 cal guns.  It would be fun but could only really compete with CAs and maybe the smaller BCs.

 

There is also the Swedish Oden class with 2x Dual 10inch 42 cal guns.

 

But they were very small ships, hardly bigger than the monitor class before them.  The Sverige only displaced 7185 tons and the Oden 3,715.

 

Source:  Jane's Fighting Ships of WWI

  • Re : Some Neutral BB Possibilities

    09. 15. 2012 13:21


Tomm96

Originally Posted by PictWarrior1

For Sweden, you'd have to dig back to their WWI BBs like the Sverige class which only had 2x Dual 11inch 45 cal guns.  It would be fun but could only really compete with CAs and maybe the smaller BCs.

 

There is also the Swedish Oden class with 2x Dual 10inch 42 cal guns.

 

But they were very small ships, hardly bigger than the monitor class before them.  The Sverige only displaced 7185 tons and the Oden 3,715.

 

Source:  Jane's Fighting Ships of WWI


You know that most of the ships in NF got time from WWI right?
For being such a small country with no intention "really" to go into a war thats quite much to even have a battleship. 

  • Re : Some Neutral BB Possibilities

    09. 15. 2012 13:25


PictWarrior1

NF did indeed get a lot of ships from WWI, however much of them did time in WWII.

 

The Sverige did serve, but the Oden did not.  They would better serve NF as Neutral CAs though, given their size and armament.  Think Pensacola.

  • Re : Some Neutral BB Possibilities

    09. 15. 2012 13:32


rocketeer1

Its a swell idea and I think it has been mentioned before, but I dont think SDE is motivated to expand the neutrals.

Its too bad really, I always thought an endgame neutral BB6 with a mixed nationality crew sold as a premium ship would be neat.

  • Re : Some Neutral BB Possibilities

    09. 15. 2012 13:33


Tomm96

Originally Posted by PictWarrior1

NF did indeed get a lot of ships from WWI, however much of them did time in WWII.

 

The Sverige did serve, but the Oden did not.  They would better serve NF as Neutral CAs though, given their size and armament.  Think Pensacola.


LOL Sweden had 8 Battleships active during the WWII....
The first of them put down during WWII was HMS Wasa and that was the only one some did get scrapted during WWII.
The rest did get scrapted 2 of them 1947, 2 of them 1950, 1 of them 1953 and 2 of them 1957. 
So count that out how many some did serve the whole WWII.

  • Re : Some Neutral BB Possibilities

    09. 16. 2012 18:14


Baker654

the Dutch had the Design 1047 Battlecruiser which was very similar to the German Scharnhorst class 

  • Re : Some Neutral BB Possibilities

    09. 16. 2012 22:45


PictWarrior1

The 1047 class was a very well thought out design.  I wonder if the NF version would use the 3x Triple 11.1inch guns or the 3x duals?

 

At a RL displacement of 27,500 tons to 29,251 tons, that would be up with the Guam or the Scharnhorst.

 

  • Re : Some Neutral BB Possibilities

    09. 17. 2012 00:26


megabstr

I want neut CLs first

  • Re : Some Neutral BB Possibilities

    09. 17. 2012 01:51


mako089

Really pointless for now since Engineers don't work on neutral for example.  They'd need to be a bit OP'ed to compensate for the lack of supports.

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