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  • 10 tips for BB players in GB (from CV player point of view)

    09. 24. 2012 13:51

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jotabe

Hi all...

 

its well known that in BG many BB players tend to blame CV for loosing the battle, and sometimes its true, but its also true that in many battles CV have to deal with enemy ftrs, bombers and blinding enemy issues that can affect the chance of a "nice" scouting task... so i will put 10 easy tips for BBs that can make the hole team win.

 

1) load and launch your scout

this is quite important, i know most BBs need to rotate their sailors in order to lvl up supports at even lvl, but my advice is to keep your scout aboard, that way you will allways have a chance to scout yourself, and your scout will reach 120 faster than any other sailor. Once you have loaded it... GET IT READY EVERYTIME, its not for use just at the start of the battle, you should load a new scout back as soon as your Scout gets killed (or gets back) to be ready to go... this way you can launch it whenever you need it (even better if you keep launching them).

CV player Point of view: many times friendly BBs ask for scouting while you are killing bomber waves or doing something as important, and there are no fighters above your BB's, so they should take their scouts and provide vision for themselves, to leave you do your job killing enemy planes or camping (owning) enemy CV's

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2) place smartly and micromanage your scout:

Many BB players just launch their scout, leave it at max altitude and send him above enemy line, and thats the worst way to manage a scout EVER. Try to send him at low altitude, and leave him between your line and your enemy line, this way if an AA ship tries to kill him, it will enter your guns range. Another thing to consider is to leave them near the border (not in the border as that's ilegal) or near the middle, in areas where fighters are not so common).

CV player P.o.V.: many BBs, in order to focus in battle do the less micromng to their scouts as possible, and you as CV notice that when enemy scouts are in straigth line to your fp route into enemy line at max altitude. Many times if a scout its far away, and when you come after him starts to move away from your ftrs you can't afford to chase it (you need to kill enemy fighters, bombers and scout the enemy) and you have to leave the task to AA ships.

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3) Kill AA ships:

AA ships many times enter BB range in order to chase a friendly airplane, this is an unique moment when you as BB can do a great good to your team. Killing that ships (it wouldn't take more than 1 or 2 shots) will make the scouting task quite easyer, not just for your cv but for you and your entire team aswell. If you don't get to kill him by leaving in orange or red the AA ship will loose his speed so its going to be harder for him to chase fighters.

CV player P.o.V.: enemy AA ships (if they are pro and use fixer) can be a real pain in the ass, making you loose your fighters or retreating them from enemy BB line... sometimes the scouting failure respond not to enemy cvs but to enemy AA ships, and its quite anoying to see how AA ship may enter BB range and move back to safety without getting pwned.

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4) if you have the chance use your AA

like when talking about scouts... many times rotating sailors involve not to leave your AA gunners above ship. also secondary gunners make your ship go slower. But when you can do it (and when nation allows, like KM MN or IJN) plese use your AA, this will give your team a great advantage, killing enemy scouts and fighters will make enemy team to be blind, and your cv will only be worried about scouting and eventually bombing.

CV player P.o.V.: when enemy BB have AA and they are good at it they can be a real problem for us to scout, on the other hand when we have ally BB with AA we can relly some aspects of the blinding task on them, this way you will be free to dominate the skyes over the enemy BB line.

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5) form a line before rushing

Many BBs nowadays tend to rush at the very first start of the battle, this is a nice way to get urself killed and make your team loose. also sometimes 8 out of 10 bbs go just to north or south, leaving 1 flank almost "free to rush" for enemy team.

CV player P.o.V.: many battles i have saw how my team (or enemy team) get 6-10 or 5-10 in the first 2 minutes of the battle... in this time there is no way you can load a full pack of ftrs to go engage your enemy... this makes us as good as a dummy ship for  the entire battle, as when we can start sending fighters the battle already has a winner. This is the most common "NOOB BB" issue in the entire game

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6) know when to rush

When in battle our team reach the point of "final rush", sometimes BBs in order to "reach first the enemy and get more damage" keep rushing even if they are blind, and many battles are lost due to this. Even worst, many times at that point most BB's won't launch their scouts, making it a critical problem.

CV player P.o.V.: when battle starts to decide in our team's favor, many times CV is left behind and the enemy its far away for scout, besides we also want our share of damage and might load a pack of DB or TB. even in that case good CV players try to put some Ftrs above enemy's lats BB, but its quite common to be blinded spaces between packs of "scouting fighters" so manage your own scouts or wait for us to bring light back. We are not blind and and we notice that our team needs light, and we'll provide light back, just hold a few seconds, or ask how much time do your team's CV need to bring light back

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7) Protect your fellow CV at the final stages of battle

Once our teams win a "side" (north or south) it could happen that enemy team wins the other side, in that case most BB go for a rush to kill enemy CV, but leaving behind friendly CV's (as we can't really rush for much time). BB should protect CV, because if you do it you will end up with the decisive advantage over enemy team.

CV player P.o.V.: its not good to be left behind just to be food of enemy BB, specially if you have scouted for your team the entire battle. in some battles for example a single CL or CA can pass our BB line, and CV is left alone to face it. in te long run this its only bad for BB as we will protect ourself and stop doing anything but loading TB/DB to kill our threat

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8) Dont Blame US for fail balance

CV balance in NF is quite bad, as the game balance CV based on tiers (CV6 > PCV > CV5 > CV4 > ECV > CV3 > CV2 > CV1) and many times tier does not have a concordant match with fighters above ship (there are lots of CV4 or ECV with 110+ fp loading T3 ftrs) so blaming a CV4 for getting owned (for example at north) its quite a basic way to see it. It's as foolish as blaming a BB2 for getting owned by a BB5.

CV player P.o.V.: when ur frts gets eaten by a high tier enemy ftr we try to at least scout, we really do... also we try to drag their ftrs from our BB line, but sometimes its just impossible as our fighters are no-match for the enemy. So don't blame us, just try to see the best way to assist (using AA and scouts) so that whe can at least try to scout/protect something.

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9) give the word about incoming bombers:

when an enemy bomber run comes into your sight you should consider saying it so friendly CV (and AA) ca

 

  • Re : 10 tips for BB players in GB (from CV player point of view)

    09. 24. 2012 16:14


jimmyawsome

Good advice. 

Nothing worse than some BB thinking hes all that and a bag of chips hollering like cv work for them and getting sunk in the first 3 minutes of the game.  It happens way too often by sub haters that force u to AA for them so they dont get embarassed by sinking from SS.

  • Re : 10 tips for BB players in GB (from CV player point of view)

    09. 24. 2012 18:45


ChicagoBears

This is the very basics of being of any use in GB as a BB. I think every BB should know all of these tips by heart.

  • Re : 10 tips for BB players in GB (from CV player point of view)

    09. 24. 2012 22:06


jotabe

Originally Posted by ChicagoBears

This is the very basics of being of any use in GB as a BB. I think every BB should know all of these tips by heart.

i agree, this is in fact very basic, but those basic tips are not followed by many BB players, so a good refresh can't hurt ;)

  • Re : 10 tips for BB players in GB (from CV player point of view)

    09. 24. 2012 22:35


power_surge

a battle i had where i was using my bb2 remodel tennessee i was left alone at north to sink a damaged  bb5 lion2 now i had my scout over him and he was blind or so i could tell so i try to get in range to shoot him i got a good hit on him but then he sunk me..... i always use my scout or aa when im not in range of enemy bbs or smaller ships for that matter these are good tips but i fear most high tier bbs will not follow them as they need their exp. or just wanna fire their lazzorrrr guns

  • Re : 10 tips for BB players in GB (from CV player point of view)

    09. 25. 2012 09:50


shaikhdann
Great job! Jotabe. Keep it up!

  • Re : 10 tips for BB players in GB (from CV player point of view)

    09. 25. 2012 13:50


Termimidget

This post will single handedly start a war in N.F.

Watch those noob BB players will be real pissed of at this. 

  • Re : 10 tips for BB players in GB (from CV player point of view)

    09. 25. 2012 15:07


ChicagoBears

Originally Posted by Termimidget

This post will single handedly start a war in N.F.

Watch those noob BB players will be real pissed of at this. 


Oh, how dare we CV players ever even slightly hint at the fact that any BB player is flawed in any way.

  • Re : 10 tips for BB players in GB (from CV player point of view)

    09. 25. 2012 19:27


jotabe

Originally Posted by Termimidget

This post will single handedly start a war in N.F.

Watch those noob BB players will be real pissed of at this. 

 

i don't see any BB player starting any war, with almost 100 views...

this are only 10 "simple tips" and some of them are noobskrieg material, but its just nice to be able to post the CV point of view of all the BB issues that makes noone want to play CV nowadays (except for event periods)

  • Re : 10 tips for BB players in GB (from CV player point of view)

    09. 29. 2012 01:12


Kr1egmarine

ihave one addition to bb players... check your ammo andmake sure all shells fired are same type.. i see so many bb3/4 firing ap/he salvo and sigh... i agree with lots of your points, but i'd argue there are fra more bad cv players than high lvl bb players... the fabulous pcv are a prime example.

how about some tips for cv players from bb players pov?

 1) if your ship leaves port/harbor with an engine,use it.. going in reverse at 2 kts from spawn doesnt count! there is a reason anchor is not purchasable item in harbor.
2)If you are scared ofsubs or enemy bw, use hh or try intercepting the bombers before they reach your teams side
3) even if you are strong cv with great pilots and one zillionvets, fight enemy fighters away from your bb line. i cant stress this enough. With the exception of smoke or horseshoe luck, even the best bb player will get wiped if they cannot see enemy bbs rushing them as you party/dogfight over their heads.. there is a reason friendly aa will start shooting at your planes.. think about it... they want exp just as much as you do.

4) try to be close to the bb line, but dontcross. simple reason? if there is a sub,.chances are you can kill it... secondly, if youre running t4 with little fuel,your plane will waste less fuel going to where your planes will be most effective.  The best cv players micro manage their planes and ships so as not to cross/hit rocks & get stuck.

5) dont load 10 planes on 1 pilot.... youre asking to get camped.. this goes for any type of plane.

6) dont be an rfab cv... if you have one of each type of.pilot,youre getting close to being as useless for the same reason as in tip #5.. this is for efficiency purposes... you will have levelled crew that many would argue is as helpful as 5 restorer on a bb.. 

  • Re : 10 tips for BB players in GB (from CV player point of view)

    09. 29. 2012 17:32


ChicagoBears

Originally Posted by Kr1egmarine

ihave one addition to bb players... check your ammo andmake sure all shells fired are same type.. i see so many bb3/4 firing ap/he salvo and sigh... i agree with lots of your points, but i'd argue there are fra more bad cv players than high lvl bb players... the fabulous pcv are a prime example.

how about some tips for cv players from bb players pov?

 1) if your ship leaves port/harbor with an engine,use it.. going in reverse at 2 kts from spawn doesnt count! there is a reason anchor is not purchasable item in harbor.
2)If you are scared ofsubs or enemy bw, use hh or try intercepting the bombers before they reach your teams side
3) even if you are strong cv with great pilots and one zillionvets, fight enemy fighters away from your bb line. i cant stress this enough. With the exception of smoke or horseshoe luck, even the best bb player will get wiped if they cannot see enemy bbs rushing them as you party/dogfight over their heads.. there is a reason friendly aa will start shooting at your planes.. think about it... they want exp just as much as you do.

4) try to be close to the bb line, but dontcross. simple reason? if there is a sub,.chances are you can kill it... secondly, if youre running t4 with little fuel,your plane will waste less fuel going to where your planes will be most effective.  The best cv players micro manage their planes and ships so as not to cross/hit rocks & get stuck.

5) dont load 10 planes on 1 pilot.... youre asking to get camped.. this goes for any type of plane.

6) dont be an rfab cv... if you have one of each type of.pilot,youre getting close to being as useless for the same reason as in tip #5.. this is for efficiency purposes... you will have levelled crew that many would argue is as helpful as 5 restorer on a bb.. 


These are the basics of CV and for anyone looking to play CV even half-way decently needs to follow these tips. The only set ups where a CV can be any effective are FW, BW, FB, FA, FAB IMO.

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