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Need help on my IJN DP gunners
12. 17. 2012 07:47
kayzee01
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Can any one tell me when will be the reload cap. for these DP gunners?
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Re : Need help on my IJN DP gunners
12. 17. 2012 07:48
kayzee01
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what lvl? how much vets do i need?
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Re : Need help on my IJN DP gunners
12. 17. 2012 08:05
DrZawaz
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Using the guide posted in the tips and tactics section:
The "true ability" of your gunners for reload right now is
(4 * 117 + 510) * (668 / 668) * 1800 = 1,760,400
(4 * 112 + 507) * (668 / 668) * 1800 = 1,719,000
According to the same guide, reload is capped at around 2 million true ability.
2,000,000 / (4 * 117 + 510) * (668 / 668) = 2044.9 -> 2045
2,000,000 / (4 * 112 + 507) * (668 / 668) = 2094.2 -> 2093
Since your gunners are receiving 18 reload per level up, you need (2044 - 1800) / 18 = 13.5 -> 14 more lvel ups to hit the reload cap (2094 - 1800) / 18 = 16.3 -> 17 more level ups to hit the reload cap.
So at level 96 + 14 = 110 the first gunner will hit reload cap. So at level 96 + 17 = 113 the second gunner will hit reload cap.
This is assuming that the number of experts and vets do not change and reload cap is at 2 million true ability exactly.
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Re : Need help on my IJN DP gunners
12. 17. 2012 08:42
kayzee01
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Re : Need help on my IJN DP gunners
12. 17. 2012 09:58
richardphat
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Originally Posted by DrZawaz
Using the guide posted in the tips and tactics section:
The "true ability" of your gunners for reload right now is
(4 * 117 + 510) * (668 / 668) * 1800 = 1,760,400
(4 * 112 + 507) * (668 / 668) * 1800 = 1,719,000
According to the same guide, reload is capped at around 2 million true ability.
2,000,000 / (4 * 117 + 510) * (668 / 668) = 2044.9 -> 2045
2,000,000 / (4 * 112 + 507) * (668 / 668) = 2094.2 -> 2093
Since your gunners are receiving 18 reload per level up, you need (2044 - 1800) / 18 = 13.5 -> 14 more lvel ups to hit the reload cap (2094 - 1800) / 18 = 16.3 -> 17 more level ups to hit the reload cap.
So at level 96 + 14 = 110 the first gunner will hit reload cap. So at level 96 + 17 = 113 the second gunner will hit reload cap.
This is assuming that the number of experts and vets do not change and reload cap is at 2 million true ability exactly.
2 million is outdated, now it's 2,5mil -2,7mil for guns.
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Re : Need help on my IJN DP gunners
12. 17. 2012 10:13
kayzee01
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so the lvl required should be higher than the lvl he said it should be? :( sob
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Re : Need help on my IJN DP gunners
12. 17. 2012 11:07
DrZawaz
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Originally Posted by richardphat
2 million is outdated, now it's 2,5mil -2,7mil for guns.
Crap. re-doing the math:
2,500,000 / (4 * 117 + 510) * (668 / 668) = 2556.2 -> 2557
2,500,000 / (4 * 112 + 507) * (668 / 668) = 2617.8 -> 2618
Since your gunners are receiving 18 reload per level up, you need (2557- 1800) / 18 = 42.05 -> 43 more lvel ups to hit the reload cap (2618- 1800) / 18 = 45.4-> 46 more level ups to hit the reload cap.
Your gunners are never going to hit the reload cap without 150+ vets ( (4 * 150 + 510) * 2232 = 2,477,520)
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Re : Need help on my IJN DP gunners
12. 17. 2012 19:26
richardphat
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Originally Posted by DrZawaz
Originally Posted by richardphat
2 million is outdated, now it's 2,5mil -2,7mil for guns.
Crap. re-doing the math:
2,500,000 / (4 * 117 + 510) * (668 / 668) = 2556.2 -> 2557
2,500,000 / (4 * 112 + 507) * (668 / 668) = 2617.8 -> 2618
Since your gunners are receiving 18 reload per level up, you need (2557- 1800) / 18 = 42.05 -> 43 more lvel ups to hit the reload cap (2618- 1800) / 18 = 45.4-> 46 more level ups to hit the reload cap.
Your gunners are never going to hit the reload cap without 150+ vets ( (4 * 150 + 510) * 2232 = 2,477,520)
Remember at lvl 120, he will likely have 758 sailors on it and depending when he classed his chief DP, he would get over than that.
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Re : Need help on my IJN DP gunners
12. 17. 2012 20:00
DrZawaz
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Originally Posted by richardphat
Originally Posted by DrZawaz
Originally Posted by richardphat
2 million is outdated, now it's 2,5mil -2,7mil for guns.
Crap. re-doing the math:
2,500,000 / (4 * 117 + 510) * (668 / 668) = 2556.2 -> 2557
2,500,000 / (4 * 112 + 507) * (668 / 668) = 2617.8 -> 2618
Since your gunners are receiving 18 reload per level up, you need (2557- 1800) / 18 = 42.05 -> 43 more lvel ups to hit the reload cap (2618- 1800) / 18 = 45.4-> 46 more level ups to hit the reload cap.
Your gunners are never going to hit the reload cap without 150+ vets ( (4 * 150 + 510) * 2232 = 2,477,520)
Remember at lvl 120, he will likely have 758 sailors on it and depending when he classed his chief DP, he would get over than that.
You are correct, but I was assuming he kept the same number of experts/vets (and thus the extra sailors would all be recruits...). If he keeps the same ratio (17% vet, 76% expert) the new numbers would be: (4 * 129 + 583) * (1800 + (18*24)) = 2.45 million. Meaning he gets close to the reload cap IF he manages to get another vet conversion (or two) and fill the rest with experts
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Re : Need help on my IJN DP gunners
12. 17. 2012 20:25
kayzee01
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im selling it!!! (hope some one will buy it lol).. more ill lvl new one and going to delay class it...
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Re : Need help on my IJN DP gunners
12. 17. 2012 22:31
Benser33
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Originally Posted by kayzee01
im selling it!!! (hope some one will buy it lol).. more ill lvl new one and going to delay class it...
I actually wrote a guide recently (2 threads down from this) on the topic of leveling and classing IJN AA gunners. You might find some useful information there if I've done half as good a job writing it than I feel I have.
http://fm.en.kupaisky.com/Community/Forum/View.aspx?num=13276&searchtype=0&pagecount=0&searchvalue=&sort=5&category=A03&page1=1
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