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  • The South Wins Games

    01. 28. 2013 19:59

Recommend : 7

Rehor

Sticky this.

 

  • Re : The South Wins Games

    01. 28. 2013 20:11


mustangman

Totally reccommended.

 

BB6's need to take heed. Going north in a scoutless QV is fail.

  • Re : The South Wins Games

    01. 28. 2013 21:30


ErwinJA

Originally Posted by mustangman

BB6's need to take heed. Going north in a scoutless QV is fail.



While a scoutless BB6 is definitely fail, going north in one is not so 100% of the time. A BB6 is a ship that can turn things around in any area if properly supported. If not properly supported south, or if the north is in trouble, there is no reason to focus on the south. Even from the start, there are a number of valid reasons to start north. Anyone who says otherwise has already shown a tendency towards prejudgment that disqualifies them as an authority on such matters.

In fact, for the thread, I would posit that the south does not necessarily win games. True, if the south is lost, the game is likely to be lost as well, but at least as often as not, it turns out that the south is merely held in a stalemate as the battle is actually won elsewhere. Too much focus south can lead to blowouts if it doesn't lead to the enemy line collapsing in short order.

  • Re : The South Wins Games

    01. 28. 2013 21:42


mustangman

Originally Posted by ErwinJA

Originally Posted by mustangman

BB6's need to take heed. Going north in a scoutless QV is fail.



While a scoutless BB6 is definitely fail, going north in one is not so 100% of the time. A BB6 is a ship that can turn things around in any area if properly supported. If not properly supported south, or if the north is in trouble, there is no reason to focus on the south. Even from the start, there are a number of valid reasons to start north. Anyone who says otherwise has already shown a tendency towards prejudgment that disqualifies them as an authority on such matters.

In fact, for the thread, I would posit that the south does not necessarily win games. True, if the south is lost, the game is likely to be lost as well, but at least as often as not, it turns out that the south is merely held in a stalemate as the battle is actually won elsewhere. Too much focus south can lead to blowouts if it doesn't lead to the enemy line collapsing in short order.

 

I didn't post the guys name because many know who he is. He goes north... stops, sits and waits for ships and then demands other ships not to cross him because he refuses to move.

  • Re : The South Wins Games

    01. 28. 2013 22:14


ErwinJA

Originally Posted by mustangman

I didn't post the guys name because many know who he is. He goes north... stops, sits and waits for ships and then demands other ships not to cross him because he refuses to move.



I was well aware that it was clearly referencing someone specific (though I don't recognize this player personally), but it remains that this isn't a place for calling out individual players, regardless of failings. Be it once, or multiple times. That has little to do with tips or tactics.

I'd much rather focus on basic things like making sure that CVs recognize that both north and south could use FC, and BBs note that "he can handle it himself" is the best way to lose half the map, and with it the battle. Especially when "he" is 2-3 tiers below the ships he's supposed to be holding off. On that, I can't completely disagree with the OP. I just disagree with the sweeping generalization.

  • Re : The South Wins Games

    01. 28. 2013 22:41


BWOopsy

I'll have to disagree. While the south has a definite range advantage, I've seen plenty of rickrolls north.

What I'm not seeing so much of are anchors, the rush to either north or south pivot points to set up while....

the game winner.... is established.

Sight.

Sight wins.

Whether from scouts, cv's keeping their flights over enemy lines, or lil suicidal rushing ff's and dd's. And please, show your subs some love; help them get to the enemy lines whether sweeping the area of annoying asw, or killing scouts early in the game.

This is where I generally see most fail - CV's unable to keep the lights on whether by fighter cap for friendly scouts or keeping bombers over target *after* dropping, especially if there's nothing else nearby to assist. Everyone should scout as much as feasible.

Sight > suck, whether N or S... usually.

  • Re : The South Wins Games

    01. 29. 2013 04:54


captgeo62

Originally Posted by BWOopsy

I'll have to disagree. While the south has a definite range advantage, I've seen plenty of rickrolls north.

What I'm not seeing so much of are anchors, the rush to either north or south pivot points to set up while....

the game winner.... is established.

Sight.

Sight wins.

Whether from scouts, cv's keeping their flights over enemy lines, or lil suicidal rushing ff's and dd's. And please, show your subs some love; help them get to the enemy lines whether sweeping the area of annoying asw, or killing scouts early in the game.

This is where I generally see most fail - CV's unable to keep the lights on whether by fighter cap for friendly scouts or keeping bombers over target *after* dropping, especially if there's nothing else nearby to assist. Everyone should scout as much as feasible.

Sight > suck, whether N or S... usually.




I agree

  • Re : The South Wins Games

    01. 29. 2013 07:51


firezmissles

In a GB setting, it is sometimes okay to lurk around the mid/north if you're against a more careful opponent in the south so that you are busy sinking his team while he busy focusing his attention on you. Eventually you will outnumber the remaining people and push them to the rocks.


You don't have to be a good player to win GBs. You just need strategy. I've sucked for a long time but maintained a 60%+ win rate.

  • Re : The South Wins Games

    02. 03. 2013 16:09


Rehor

Requesting lock.

Here is absolute proof that people don't have a clue and happily refuse to listen to reality.

  • Re : The South Wins Games

    02. 03. 2013 16:21


captaincvfd

Originally Posted by Rehor

Requesting lock.

Here is absolute proof that people don't have a clue and happily refuse to listen to reality.

Yes they should Lock this whoever started this Thread was Trolling

  • Re : The South Wins Games

    02. 03. 2013 17:38


Rehor

Originally Posted by captaincvfd

Originally Posted by Rehor

Requesting lock.

Here is absolute proof that people don't have a clue and happily refuse to listen to reality.

Yes they should Lock this whoever started this Thread was Trolling



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