The border problem does not affect BBs to any significant manner. 

Therefore it will remain in place.

does not affect BBs in any significant manner?  Do ever play anymore?  I've passed that invisible border several times and been unable to turn around in time.  If there is going to be a fake border, they could at least have the decency to draw a line for us to see.  And about "watching where your ships is", what about it?  I have to lose the top several inches of the map now?  Screw that, give me the whole map!  If you're going to move the border south, move the rocks with it!

This is ridiculous.  Yeah, see those rocks up there?  Well you can't go that far.  How far can you go?  Well, somewhere about three inches south of the real border, I'm not sure.  Why isn't there a line or a new rockwall you ask?  Well, because the high-paying players who invented this stupid new border idea don't think it's necessary.  Even though most of them live on the test server now and rarely actually play the game that the rest of us do.  They are become just as detached to the community as $DE always has been and TNF wants to be.

Will anything be done about this?  Nope, because the real community doesn't have a voice to be heard.  We have to rely on people who think they know best and it is their voices to whom the rare ear in $DE will ever listen.

As the great Westley once said to Inigo, "Get used to disappointment."

well than i apologize for the assumptions.  Where is this map edit you speak of?

this helps a lot.  ty.  However, is there any chance we could get this on the main map?  I assume though that since it is on the mini map already and not the main map, that it may not be possible?

Can SDE create a red line along north border retreat zone (not minimap, and at least approximate is enough if retreat zone depends on not straight rocks) to see when ship is going to start retreating. I think nothing more is needed if the border is seen.
But now, especially playing a slow ship (or a ship without overheat) = 99% unexpected retreat from border, or at least gun block for around 10-12 secs. 

I can make a video to explain it if desired.


However the entire A row is pretty much pointless for a BB to be in anyway.

If you transition to consider north as B and C without A. You'll be better off. 

If you turn at the bottom of Row A:

1.) To attack you, The other team needs to rush, You now have the south to north range advantage as well as you can pull backwards, the enemy will have to stop rushing or will run into the border.

2.) If you turn at A/B border, you will have plenty of time to realize you need to turn soon, then complete a turn.



The way the sprites for the map line up. It is currently impossible to make a line at the retreat border. A new sprite and a some lines of code would be required to make such a line. 

Disagree: top border is very useful for attacking BB. Any other place (except south border) could be focus from both: straight opposite, northern and souther BBs. Near border one component (northern or southern) is eliminated.
I'm talking not about lane battle, but about attacks (e.g. rushes). However, as for me, I haven't yet had such problem during rush, but during lane battle - quite plenty of time, in large part due to absence of overheat (not all the time ships have 120 crews, or full overheat) or simply insufficient speed and turning rate, as well as reaction.
3 secs could be enough if you have 39 knots (from the very start, but how much it takes to get it from 23? 2 seconds?), excellent reaction and appropriate ship that allows 39 knots.
If I have e.g. Reumberto which maximal speed, if I'm not mistaking, is 35, you have not time to return. Especially with low-level crew that have around 20 seconds of overheat, part of which could be used before entering the border.

If they can't make such line, they may introduce similar "pre-retreat zone": let the message (like torpedos) be shown if ship come close to the border. 

Sigh... I guess I will have to make that video.


I assure you, rushing near the north border is a complete tactical disadvantage to the person rushing.

The opposite is true south. Pushing along the south border yields a significant tactical advantage.


The way ship sprites. hitboxs and gun locations work out in NF create a range advantage for any ship firing from the south towards the north.


It is significantly easier to kill a ship rushing the north border compared to a ship rushing the south border due to this effect. You effectively gain nearly and extra 1/4" range advantage over the rushing ship.  (effectively for 40-45 degree ships, a 1-2 angle advantage) The rush can be easily countered, especially since the second you force the rushing ship to bail or go all in. If they go all in, if you start from the A/B row border, you could run, litterally straight back and land broadsides on a ship heading straight for you from the middle of row A. If they bail, you can turn around below them and use the 1/4" advantage you hold on them to finish them off. Especially if they are in slower turning ship than yourself.


The only advantage you can get near the borders is they frequently can be blinded. How ever that is not an advantage of the border itself. As the same effect can be done in the middle of Row C and is a mere sight advantage.