I have little more time, and would like to add, what is missing in sub warfare is a formitable asw. If you wana remove sonar from cvs and buff subs to the point of SS6's so its like shooting fish In a barrel, keep going down the same l ath you are now. If you wa t a chalange you must buff the asw.

maybe its a good idea to start your own game

What kind of opinion is that? Why don't you go make your own game, tuff guy. Some one voices their opinion and you feel tuff posting garbage like that? What are you a child, go to bed, its past your bed time.

The fact is NF should have buffed the asw aspects of the game before introducing subs. There needs to be a challenging aspect to playing a sub, what fun is it if there is no challenge.  You end up with a bunch of kids playing them destroying the game for everyone else. Why else do you always see WaW rooms with the no torp option, giveing the option to remove subs from GB you would see it there also. If you made asw more of a chalange than shooting fish in a barrel for subs people would embrace them.

It's just that you keep on talking about the subs.

This time in another way.

Maybe it says enough, that im the only one that reacting on this post.

Here's the best ASW in Navyfield...another sub.  If you really wanted to sink enemy subs, get a sub. 

There are dedicated ASW players.  I come across them all they time. They know how to use their ships, but with most game play situations it involves communications (in 18 different languages) and some players just aren't in tune with playing as a team.
There are plenty of ASW out there.. I encounter enemy subs and enemy ASW all the time when I use the sub.   Sometimes I get them, sometimes they get me.  

You are in control of your ship's gun arrangements and defenses.  Plan it properly.  Maybe try communicating with a team mate to see if that CL has a sonarman and some HH...

Quit trying to change the mechanics, it's not going to happen that way anyway.  Good players play for the challenge and fun, not the exp and hit points or tonnage sank or upleveling some lousy sailor.

Emden isn't an asw ship to begin with, it's an AA ship.

Fitting full 120 crew is barely possible, the idea will just kill any reason to play low level ships. Because bunch of people enjoy playing support AA/Anti DD-CL and not only ASW

why not have a ship thats suits higher level sailors?

i dont believe that it needs to be any more powerful than the ones we have currently.

(If real life AA was anything like in the game we wouldn't build airplanes.)

a level 69/96 ship, simular to an emden or other CL, with 6 T and 4 R slots. it would have to have high level guns (clones of low level maybe).

maybe only 1 support slots????? have to chose between engy/rep/or sonar.

it would have to be made sure not to be OP, just a higher level.

current AA/ASW is already too OP.

maybe 12 T slots that can only load single turrets,  2 rear depth charge only slots

maybe a remod for the APA?

Billme,see something has to be done. And a big part of it has to be the insentive to get someone to play asw in the 1st place. To say all you need for asw is another sub just dont cut it. But no mater what you do,make new ships increase displacement of current ships. There has to be an insentive to play it, way it is the enemy sub might die befor he even gets to you. Its not as if there are subs all over the place like enemy aircraft, in wich you earn awsome xp and tons of experts shooting down. Everyone knows why ppl play this game,its the xp,if it was for the fun you wouldent see as many GB rooms as you do,and when they are farming xp they want the most they can get. So why would someone play asw?

If you have no asw to balance subs, then you have to nerf them, so BB's and CV's can balance them. You cant make god ships and say your at the mercy of your friendly sub to save you or your team is dead. Because nobody can kill this thing other than another sub.

They should probly just remove subs all togeather they will never balance them. Or give us NO torp Options for all room types and let the players deside if they want subs or not.

" They should probly just remove subs all togeather they will never balance them. Or give us NO torp Options for all room types and let the players deside if they want subs or not."

Your opinion has been noted.

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