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  • Bring back torp XP

    07. 06. 2014 04:45

Recommend : 15

Vawlkus

Simple request, simple to do. Let sub players level up on their ships, and stop forcing them to try and powerlevel.

 

Fringe benefit, TBs might become useful for CVs again as well.

 

 

  • Re : Bring back torp XP

    07. 12. 2014 14:39


Blink89

Yes  Sir



or they decrease Shell xp :D SO they have to powerlvl either on their BB 

  • Re : Bring back torp XP

    07. 13. 2014 10:01


StJuggs

I'll recommend this. The 21 levels b/w SS4 and SS5 are brutal because of the shared exp.

  • Re : Bring back torp XP

    07. 20. 2014 19:07


Audessy

Couldn't agree more. Torp xp should be equal to or greater than shell xp. I prefer TB's but the XP is such a disappointment.

  • Re : Bring back torp XP

    07. 21. 2014 03:19


Whatzup

Wont happen.

Subs are not aloud to have Xp like BB's.

Subs are not aloud to have same repair rate as any other shipclass.

Subs are not aloud in any other room then GB.

That people use other ways to lvl there subs has as side efect that there is as little as possible ASW defense. ( a tier 1 to 3 sub would realy help in this )

Its all rocket science for TNF and as long those amateurs calling the shots not much improvement will be made as time did proof.

That the shared Xp for torpedo's screwed all other torp related ships too showed how they deal with game issues.

  • Re : Bring back torp XP

    07. 21. 2014 09:48


Ultra_Dog

A comment on your sentence:
"That people use other ways to lvl there subs has as side efect that there is as little as possible ASW defense. ( a tier 1 to 3 sub would realy help in this )"

What I find the most disturbing is when players don't go through the ship class tree (power leveling) and jump directly into SS5s with nary a skill learned.

Those of us who are in the class of Submariners know the difference between a skilled player and a newly minted player in a submarine.   My sub skill was learned by running an FF-Y with depth charges. I learned early on how to attack subs, a skill I used when I got my Type VII (KM SS2). Before the SS3s came out, the Type VII was a very useful sub, but rarely could sink a BB.  

One of the main skill sets of using the sub is SS vs SS warfare.  If you can't get past the first wave of enemy ships (another Sub); your game is over.   Little tactics that involve such maneuvers will mean you understand the pros, cons and limitations of your opposing enemy sub(s).

First off, what are your sub's capabilities and weaknesses?  How many front torp tubes, rear tubes, total torps, etc. What is your enemy's sub class/nation capabilities and limitations? If you don't know the specifications of IJN, KM, RN, US, MN and RM subs you will lose SS vs SS battles repeatedly...Survival demands you know these differences.  There are major differences between each level of each ship class, including torpedo configurations.  Need some air and want to surface?  Does your enemy sub have a deck gun?  Have you ever been U-flak'd?  What Is your DP reading?  Can you crash dive safely, or will it end your game?  Should you absorb the hit and not crash dive?  Can you avoid enemy torps?  Surface for more speed? Pop a smoke? Dive to avoid detection?  Attack the ASW or the enemy sub first?  How much air do you have left? Are your Torps on fast/slow?  What is their detonation distance? How many are ready to be fired? Should I use Gradual or launch a salvo?  Is the enemy turning left or right, when will your torps impact?  Is the enemy by himself, or does he have another sub or ASW nearby? Are torps incoming towards you?  Have Torpedo Bombers "locked on" to you?  Are you going to retreat out of enemy HH range, or move in and have to crash dive?  How good is the enemy ASW's sonar?  Can you sink the escort and blind the ASW CA/CV/BB?  Should you attack that BB6 or the BW CV?  How much air do you have left?  Will you retreat and grab some air and lick your wounds?  Will you charge ahead, pop a smoke for a few gulps of air, or have no regard for your safety, spitting torps at everyone and anyone until you  surface and get blasted?

 

 One of the "Navyfield Myths" is that subs avoid each other intentionally.  That myth is totally bogus and my record of sinking subs is proof of that.  I will point out that an SS2 will probably not want to challenge a pair of SS5s rolling toward him and may simply go the other direction for his own survival.  That is not a conspiracy, that's a tactic.

  • Re : Bring back torp XP

    07. 21. 2014 20:49


StJuggs

Originally Posted by Whatzup

Stuff

Originally Posted by Ultra_Dog

Stuff

 One of the "Navyfield Myths" is that subs avoid each other intentionally.  That myth is totally bogus and my record of sinking subs is proof of that.  I will point out that an SS2 will probably not want to challenge a pair of SS5s rolling toward him and may simply go the other direction for his own survival.  That is not a conspiracy, that's a tactic.

Both of you guys forgot to click the Recommend Button.

Subs intentionally avoiding each other is not a Navyfield Myth. It is actually quite true. I have screenshots of 2 opposing SS players agreeing not to attack each other in all chat. They both joined the next battleroom and continued the ABing.

I also have a screenshot of a player PMing me in a WaW asking me to go south wiith my SS b/c he was going north with his SS. I went north and sunk him.

Powerleveling BO's seem to be the way to go these days. With nerfed exp and 21 levels b/w the SS4 and SS5, leveling with a sub is tough. The worst for me was going from the UK SS5 to the SS5.5.

I believe that bringing back torp exp is a must. So CLICK THE RECOMMEND BUTTON!!!

  • Re : Bring back torp XP

    07. 22. 2014 08:03


Whatzup

Originally Posted by StJuggs

Both of you guys forgot to click the Recommend Button.

Subs intentionally avoiding each other is not a Navyfield Myth. It is actually quite true. I have screenshots of 2 opposing SS players agreeing not to attack each other in all chat. They both joined the next battleroom and continued the ABing.

I also have a screenshot of a player PMing me in a WaW asking me to go south wiith my SS b/c he was going north with his SS. I went north and sunk him.

You have screenshots and being it a bannable offence action would be taken to those 3 players if you report them.

ABing does happen less with sub then with BB as a win is nessery to get any Xp.All the time I played it was asked me once.

Originally Posted by StJuggs

I believe that bringing back torp exp is a must. So CLICK THE RECOMMEND BUTTON!!!

This happen when you do in SDE HQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oUoQCD2VJU

  • Re : Bring back torp XP

    07. 22. 2014 15:26


soccermaniac

I'm not enough a sub driver and i think this needs to be done.  

  • Re : Bring back torp XP

    07. 26. 2014 18:39


Audessy

I'd like to add that there are many less kita's since the torp xp nerf a long time ago. Kitakami is a really really fun ship to play but the xp is terrible. To make matters worse, everyone uses bulge and .2 armor since subs came along.

How about using mines? Mines are fun too but they count as torp xp and it sucks.

This could easily be changed overnight for us. Just a bunch of booleans. Maybe even 1. I really hope this gets noticed.

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