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  • cesare borgia

    07. 30. 2014 02:10


ranghena

hi all, does anyone try the EBB cesare borgia?

which guns mount? new model?

 

  • Re : cesare borgia

    07. 30. 2014 02:52


ikari92

Cesare Borgia is an upgraded version of the Vittorio Veneto with 1 extra support slot , and the unique gun of the Cesare Borgia is also an upgraded version of the 16.5'/50 Model 1934(which is the Vittorio Veneto's gun)
The Cesare Borgia uses the 16.5'/50 Model 1945 which require the gunner with level 115.
You are able to level the whole BB6 crew in the Cesare Borgia 

  • Re : cesare borgia

    08. 03. 2014 18:50


Hawk010

Don't bother getting it, it is worse than the BB5

  • Re : cesare borgia

    08. 03. 2014 19:24


ErwinJA

Specifically, it's the VV with a larger hit box, fewer T slots, and the only buffs being an extra support and slightly more useable displacement. The only reason to get it is to level up sub and CV BOs in World at War rooms.

  • Re : cesare borgia

    08. 04. 2014 13:02


phantom3553

like they said, CB is a fat version of VV with a bb6 number of slot... I find it only good for leveling your whole bb6 crew/cv/ss 

  • Re : cesare borgia

    08. 20. 2014 09:53


Ultra_Dog

I picked one up and find it to be a slow pig, easily hammered by many BBs.

The L100 guns can only handle one bind of ammo.

No T-slot room for decent AA guns.

This ship needs some serious adjustments. 

  • Re : cesare borgia

    08. 20. 2014 10:41


EricIdle

You're not supposed to put on the lvl 100 VV guns - they are far too heavy and use too much space. The lvl 115 guns are lighter and smaller (in space requirements). Unfortunately for the CB, there are no lvl 101 guns (lvl 100 clones for EBB5). For other nations' EBB5.5, those are an alternative, if your gunners aren't yet at 115.

And all EBB5.5 have fewer AA mounts than the BB5.

So the CB doesn't need "some serious adjustments", you just have to level your gunners...

  • Re : cesare borgia

    08. 24. 2014 09:33


Ultra_Dog

Originally Posted by EricIdle

You're not supposed to put on the lvl 100 VV guns - they are far too heavy and use too much space. The lvl 115 guns are lighter and smaller (in space requirements). Unfortunately for the CB, there are no lvl 101 guns (lvl 100 clones for EBB5). For other nations' EBB5.5, those are an alternative, if your gunners aren't yet at 115.

And all EBB5.5 have fewer AA mounts than the BB5.

So the CB doesn't need "some serious adjustments", you just have to level your gunners...



You're right. Thanks for the info, as I  now have L115 guns and they are the correct models.  As a top-tier BB, it certainly could use a little more range though, but good shell weight and damage.  

Unfortunately for me, I only have a BO and two good gunners and no supports in the RM line anywhere near the level because my crew was from the CV line (Ftrs, TBs, DBs).  So my ship's speed is essentially stock and slow as a snail, leaving me vulnerable.  Top that off with zero repair and it's little more than a target platform for enemy ships.  I feel like I'm one of those islands in Occupation mode.  I need to scour the trade boards for good support guys, but I need more creds to get the high-level guys.  It'll just sit in the harbor for awhile until then.  Sell some sailors, aquire some others..etc.

My EBB KM J39 is nicely outfitted with my sub's crew (BO, gunners, 5XEngrs, Scout, Rpr. -all at very high levels and fully decked).  The J39 has very good range and maneuverability, but the shells are light and it only takes a few hits and goes down.  Maybe in hindsight, I should have gotten the Stresseman or UK variant, since I have supports that would be at level.

  • Re : cesare borgia

    09. 01. 2014 03:27


dessesbo

80% bbs RN have same problem , the space they take up guns to AA is so much or T slot poor, and apparently never think to fix it ... because from the first day with this nation i told a gm.

you only need to see the rest of the nations to see that detail..

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