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  • Small change, Update Kegero

    08. 20. 2014 14:58

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Chaosticket

The Imperial Japanese Navy Kagerou Class destroyer was fitted with 2, 4tube type 93 "long lance" launchers and accompanying torpedoes in real life, but that isnt possible ingame. the lowest space type 93 launcher is 31 space, and 36space for the 4tube launcher. the Kagerou has 28space in its secondary Tslots.

the Kagerou Tslot space alotment(28) should be changed at least to the minimum to mount the real-life 4 tube type 93 long lance torpedo launcher(36).

Its a minor change, and shouldnt unbalance the game too much as a tier 1 destoyer has very limited weight so carrying a high skill and therefore fast reload crews difficult if not impossible.

 

  • Re : Small change, Update Kegero

    08. 20. 2014 16:44


normpearii

Unforunatly, I'm looking at all the options for the Type 93's. Their weights and minimum levels mean that the launchers, torpedos and sailors required for the for them to work, would be too much displacement to be reasonably feasible. Changing the displacement on the Kagero is not going to happen, simply because that would mean more belt or bulge compared to other national DDs.

  • Re : Small change, Update Kegero

    08. 22. 2014 09:07


Chaosticket

Limited displacement is the balance of DD1s. I dont think there is any tier 1 destroyer that can mount high level crews without sacrifices such as leaving support slots empty.

 

The Kagerou SHOULD be able to use the type 93 torpedoes, which is just requires a change to space, but that doesnt mean anyone would be able to fit level 55-120 full/experts/vets on every gun slot. So the change wouldnt make the Kagerou overpowered.

 

  • Re : Small change, Update Kegero

    08. 22. 2014 14:57


phantom3553

1) NF =/= RL
2) changing the t slot space of 1 nation's dd1 will affect other nation's dd1 (in short, you also need to change other nation's dd1 t slot space to balance the changes or to be fair)
3) changing the space req of 1 torp launcher will affect other torp launchers

  • Re : Small change, Update Kegero

    08. 23. 2014 01:39


Chaosticket

Originally Posted by phantom3553

1) NF =/= RL
2) changing the t slot space of 1 nation's dd1 will affect other nation's dd1 (in short, you also need to change other nation's dd1 t slot space to balance the changes or to be fair)
3) changing the space req of 1 torp launcher will affect other torp launchers

#2 why? Not all dd1s are the same.

the Soviets dd1 has the smallest Rslots, but has 4 Tslots.

Italian DD1 has VERY long range weapons, but fragile hull, slow speed, and very limited weight.

German DD1 can carry 5 twin anti-air guns easily.

Whats the Kagerou speciality supposed to be? Carrying Long Lance torpedoes.

  • Re : Small change, Update Kegero

    08. 23. 2014 02:49


mako089

First of all it's been pretty much like that for 7 years ( and not even Quenirland cared).

It's also a dd1 ~ level 12.  People probably won't spend enough time on it for it to really matter unless it has a unique feature that makes players want to stay in it.  You'll hit the Fubuki right away, skip the Tatsuda and enjoy the Shimakaze.

The Kagero's (IJN) specialty? You do get to choose from more torps and launchers than the other nations ~ and as a general statement, the torps set on both low/high travel much further than the other nations and do above average damage.

As a side note ~ if you increase the T space you keep taking away the "feature" of the next tier. The Kagero most likely has more torp options and capabilities than the other nation @ lvl 12 (Sorry It's late so I don't feel like buying and experimenting for you like I have before).

Also try sticking to one nation, playing through it beyond level 60, and reflect back on it as a whole to see how the entire thing looks.

  • Re : Small change, Update Kegero

    08. 23. 2014 09:33


Chaosticket

Too many excuses dodging the important question "Would type 93 MK1 torpedoes be overpowered?" The Answer is no, as only 2 IJN destroyers cant use them, and the earliest ship that can mount them is level 16.

The Tsukikei are the only IJN destroyer that cannot use Torpedoes. The rest of the IJN destroyers and most light cruisers can and are highly encouraged to use Japan's Secret Weapon, the Type 93 Long Lance torpedoes.

Type 93 torpedoes, unless used in huge waves from the Kitakami are quite reasonable, divided into low-damage/long range, high speed/short range, or low speed/high damage variants.

A DD1 that can mount 8 makes you complain, but a DD2 that carries 9 is OK? It would be a small change to the game, hence the title. There is little reason not to make this small game change. With weekly updates its no unreasonable to  ask some ships be updated.

  • Re : Small change, Update Kegero

    08. 23. 2014 17:21


mako089

No reason to make them all the same is it?  Next dds are 4-5 games away where you can use them.  In terms of balance ~ should the Kagero really be mounting the torps with the longest range in the game?  Or the medium range high damage torps?

 

I know instead of getting to the next tier you want the next tier to come to you but of all the things is the Kagero really in need of a fix?  I get your gripe about the real life stuff but the lower tier IJN stuff really isn't as broke as the other stuff.  I can't wait to hear your opinions on the Tatsuda.....

Liking your dedication to dds and IJN TWs though

  • Re : Small change, Update Kegero

    08. 23. 2014 18:10


dolfie999

so r u saying that u want to saty in that dd1 for ever just leave it as it is thx

  • Re : Small change, Update Kegero

    08. 24. 2014 18:47


Chaosticket

Originally Posted by dolfie999

so r u saying that u want to saty in that dd1 for ever just leave it as it is thx

I have never said that, so dont use your imagination to lie.

The Kagerou is a ship that should be update to reach a real-life equivalent. Simple, right?

Most ships are generous enough to mount more powerful equipment than they were built with in real-life so something below the minimum is an oversight

  • Re : Small change, Update Kegero

    08. 24. 2014 19:40


dolfie999

dear choas

 

everyone is fine how the dd1 is current state so u think the dd1 need a buff well  then thats your opinion but have to say just drop it

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