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  • Regina Margherita & Dante Alighieri arent able to mount historical guns?

    08. 25. 2014 13:16

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Chaosticket

the Regina Margherita was a pre-dreadnought battleship equipped as its main guns 4 12inch gun separated into 2 turrets. I looked up ingame and the Navyfield site and see that the main gun space(170) is too small to mount the smallest 12inch twin barrel gun, 12"/46 Model 1909(168) with any ammunition(6 per bind). Rslots should be 180-195space minimum.

The Dante Alighieri is a dreadnought battleship of world war 1, and suffers a similar problem. The actual battleship carried 12 12inch in 4 turrets. I looked that up and saw that its space(200) isnt enough to mount the 12"/46 Model 1909(200), and ammunition(6 per bind). R slots should be 215-225space minimum.

Both ships need larger space on their main gun slots just to carry ammunition for their real-life weapons. 

 

 Is it too much to ask that ships be able to mount at least their historical guns? Its not like Im asking they mount 15x20inch guns. Most ships ingame are able to carry larger calibers than real-life, such as mounting 16inch guns on the Tennesse, but these cannot use their historical or equivalent guns?

Now I did some more checking on other old battleships from the other tech trees, especially the French and Soviet trees. They dont have the problems with mounting less-than-historical weapons, and like most ships can mount a little better. I looked up some info from several years ago and both ships seem to have had larger Rslot space then.

 

Are the Italian 12inch guns some kind or superweapons or is it an oversight to leave those ships unfinished?

 

 

  • Re : Regina Margherita & Dante Alighieri should be able to mount real guns.

    08. 25. 2014 13:50


dolfie999
So you are telling side what to do oh hears a good idea fix it's current content first by way chaos do u realty want the Rm bb to be more Op then they are actually I Love Rm bbs as they are now bit op still B4 change the guns and stuff we to fix the desync and other bugs

  • Re : Regina Margherita & Dante Alighieri should be able to mount real guns.

    08. 25. 2014 17:34


Chaosticket

Calm down and try to speak in sentences. I know there are bugs with crashing, but that doesnt mean that any other changes to the game are irrelevent.

"Are the Italian 12inch guns some kind of superweapons or is it an oversight to leave those ships unfinished?"

  • Re : Regina Margherita & Dante Alighieri should be able to mount real guns.

    08. 25. 2014 19:04


mako089

Play them first and reflect back.  I've told you this before but all you do is look at stat sheets and make suggestions based on ships you've never even played.  R-T slots aren't the only factors involved in a ship. If you actually played anything over level 60 you would know that.  Really hard to take any suggestion seriously from someone who has played a handful of games in a particular ship but in your case you haven't even played them.

  • Re : Regina Margherita & Dante Alighieri should be able to mount real guns.

    08. 25. 2014 21:19


Chaosticket

Originally Posted by mako089

Play them first and reflect back.  I've told you this before but all you do is look at stat sheets and make suggestions based on ships you've never even played.  R-T slots aren't the only factors involved in a ship. If you actually played anything over level 60 you would know that.  Really hard to take any suggestion seriously from someone who has played a handful of games in a particular ship but in your case you haven't even played them.

"Are the Italian 12inch(1909) guns some kind of superweapons or is it an oversight to leave those ships unfinished?"

I ask this BECAUSE Im ignorant of the performance. Maybe the Dante Alighieri big guns are better than the similar Lyon's or Ganguts? Its unlikely but possible. But unless that is the case both ships are severely under-equipped in their Rslots.

If You didnt read  the original post, I looked up the tech trees while planning to go up them. Thats when I saw their equipment was less-than-canon. Why is "upgrading" to the historical minimum so offensive to some people?

Hey if I got both ships and their guns are as I expect, would you refund?

 

PS If you cant equip the proper default weapons, then you certainly cant upgrade like most ships. What would the Iowa be like if it could only use 12inchguns?

  • Re : Regina Margherita & Dante Alighieri arent able to mount historical guns?

    08. 25. 2014 22:18


mako089

Remember the 6 EOC argument from the RM DD?  They are better than the 7.5s.  They are just numbers for the most part.  I'm not commenting on the Dante Alighieri because I skipped it.  The BB1 though uses the 10 EOCs and while not great they reload quite well.  There are several instances in this game where the larger calibre does not equate to a better or more practical gunset.

The other mistake you are making is putting these in "suggestions."

Go to the RM section and read up or just ask the simple question of which RM line did you prefer and why?  You'll most likely get thoughtful answers about the gunsets of course - their spread, their damage, range, and reload.  Speed, turn force, hit box size, weight etc will also be mentioned - not just numerical values for R and T slots.  The recommended set ups for each ship are listed there as well.

Why people are rolling their eyes: You make suggestion on ships you haven't played based on numerical values on their R+T slots.  It goes beyond those numbers and the guns aren't always consistent anyways.



  • Re : Regina Margherita & Dante Alighieri arent able to mount historical guns?

    08. 25. 2014 22:36


EricIdle

+1 mako.

And: NF =/= RL -- and there's a reason for that

Chaosticket's posts increasingly remind me of altsein's (better spoken, though)...

  • Re : Regina Margherita & Dante Alighieri arent able to mount historical guns?

    08. 26. 2014 00:58


phantom3442

he more like remind me of quinerland... wonder what happen to that guy -_-

anyway... have you even compare the range ... the 12" have bb2 range (lowest range of all bb2 i assume) and have you even check that there is an EBB Dante Alighiri that can atleast mount the trip 12" 1909... the regualr Dante can only mount the dual 12" 1909...

so far all looks fine to us...

  • Re : Regina Margherita & Dante Alighieri arent able to mount historical guns?

    08. 31. 2014 22:51


AC16051

i cant imagine bb2 dante aligheri with trip 12 inch gun.....ppl will rush..that gun is OP as im using it on my caio duillio 1915..

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