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  • In need of some advice.

    08. 08. 2011 23:25


MonkeyLt

I currently play on the us line and have 6 USN ships and 3 BOs: lvl 81 Sodak, lvl 51 bogue lvl, 54 S class
I also have a Texas Alanta and a Sevastapol in harbour.  
I just recently left my New Mexico 1945 behind and already miss it. I miss it I believe because my spread in the Sodak 
is so bad, its about as wide as two h44 lengths at max angle. I currently have the 16" mark 3 L,
My gunners are only level 80, Theyre vetted and boosted. I know I need to level them significantly but with such a bad
spread it makes it difficult, So ive been using the sevastapol however i feel using it more will harm me more as a 
potential Sodak driver. I cant really afford to swing back to the new mexico at the moment though. Ive tried to use my
S class and frankly get bored and frusterated with the no rear torp spots my bogue only has 1 fighter pilot and 1 dive bomber and
I  have 2 more pilots almost ready however I know since i have a Ijn carriver that the bogue will be tough and i can effectively
use it with only 2 pilots for now. the alanta and texas i just use for fun (BSing in the Texas or AAing in the alanta)


sSo I apoligize for that wall of text but my question at the end is What do I do? I find myself really frusterated and turn to you all with the hope you can give
me a tip or advice or let me know at the least if I just need to grind through.  

 

  • Re : In need of some advice.

    08. 09. 2011 00:24


aingeal
Level a new BO and send it up the NC line.

That will give you the other BB3 and also get your gunners ahead, which should fix your sodak spread.

If you are lacking supports for your BB line, or any other lines it would be a good moment to fit them along for the ride.

BB crew should be:

MINIMUM

4 engy
3 rep
2 main gunners
1 scout

With a choice of the following :

1 extra rep or engy with 2 rld gunners for AA (total of 5/3 or 4/4 with AA)
2 extra engy and 1 extra rep (total of 6/4 w/o AA)
1 extra engy 1 extra rep 1 extra scout (total of 5/4 w/o AA)

If you got everything you need, then feel free to level a few more fighter pilots for your bogue, or a good fighter stat sailor for a seaman.

Depending on what you are aiming for, you are severly lacking pilots for any CV past the bogue.

My suggestion is still to dumb the pilots at 57 (when you get the neveda) and then use nevada penn30/43/tenn 41/45 (seing as you went NM30/45 you might want to choose tenn for different playstyle of a 16" BB2. Penn43 is the better 3x14" BB2 in my mind tough)

By the time you hit NC, your gunners will be confortably ahead, so you'll have lot more fun with sodak, maybe NC too, and when you'll get to iowa, you'll be able to use it right away.

With your support closer to your BO it will only gives better performance too, and no level penalty.

  • Re : In need of some advice.

    08. 09. 2011 01:06


MonkeyLt
Thank you very much, On a side note i know my support isnt great because at level 80ish my sd isnt 900 or even close my sd at the moment is under 500. I have 2 repairers 1 restorer and 2 engineers and my scout all lvl 60-70s plus my aa gunners which is my main set up I do have 2 more engineers and one more repairer these last 3 I mentioned are around lvl 40. Im starting to level to a NC bo right now thank you again, Sorry for sounding like a noob.

  • Re : In need of some advice.

    08. 09. 2011 02:10


megabstr
i hope you're using the correct manual fcs and, on a less related note, the right engine (cv engine)

one problem could be your gunners - maybe they werent classed on-time? you could post the gunner pictures up or just give us the gunners' stats and ability and many of us can look it up for you.
(personally i have a pair of pretty good gunners at around that level. if you need to borrow them or maybe trade your current gunners for them, feel free to pm me. they are there to help. *nebraska server by the way*)

anyways, if they WERE classed on-time and you simply chose the reload route earlier, you may just have to play the sevastopol for a few more levels before you see improvement on the Sodak guns.
Sodak guns are just not meant to have a very consistent spread even with high level gunners; so at-level gunners will definitely have a tough time with them.

so my suggestion is to stay with the sevastopol if you really feel that the sodak is unplayable.
This will be a shorter grind than leveling another BO to BB2/3 level and is probably a better choice for you at the moment as a short term fix.

Anyways, like what the above reply said,
Leveling a second battleship BO is better for the long term (you can level a second batch of crew to prepare for BB5/6 or even your cv) - BUT DONT DO IT JUST YET
I wouldnt suggest doing it until your first BO is at around level 90 (BB4 Iowa level) or even higher. A second BO becomes a lot easier to grind when you have support sailors at high level. For example, you'll only need 1 or 2 engineers to make the lower level ships significantly faster and yield better results in battle, not to mention being able to take in more damage.
Another advantage would be that you will be able to play the Iowa while doing your second BO grind, since the Iowa is one of the best ships in the game (most fun in my opinion) AND you will get a tight spread with at-level gunners.

I guess the bottomline would be to suffer a shorter grind to iowa right now (through either savastopol or sodak), which will make the longer grind easier later. Grinding the two US BB3s at the same time would be even more frustrating to do with at level crews since neither of the BB3 gun sets will give you very consistent spreads even with 120 gunners.

  • Re : In need of some advice.

    08. 09. 2011 05:48


Ord832
As said by Aingeal, your best bet is to level a second BO. Always level 2 BOs for any ship type. The reason for that is because your BO gets more EXP than the rest of your sailors and will level faster. I personally have 2 CV Bos and 4 BB Bos. I did it that way so that my supports and pilots end up getting far ahead of any 1 BO. That is very handy. Especially with CVs. Because your Pilots will still be able to use the higher tier planes even if you are driving a lower level ship.

  • Re : In need of some advice.

    08. 09. 2011 09:57


MonkeyLt
Im definately using the manual fcs, I've also classed my gunners acc acc acc at level the gunners both have 150 vets and 300ish experts and 100 rookies. I feel if I level to the iowa Ill want to use it rather then then any of the ships on the NC line. I thank you very much for the advice, but I do hear what your saying about doing both grinds would be ridiculous, I dont fully know what im going to do, I think ill do at least some grinding on the NC line to get my low level engineers up. How would i post pictures of my crew btw?

  • Re : In need of some advice.

    08. 09. 2011 13:23


megabstr
hmm your gunners sound pretty good actually (even better than mine). the spread should be playable very soon.
I did okay with the sodak with lvl85 gunners - and this was before the bb345 patch which increased the sodak gun accuracy.


anyways, just swap between the sodak and the new BO line
you have to think about how you will want to level up the second BO since you will be using your main gunners, which will limit you to GB games only. (you can always get a new pair of gunners going too). Power-leveling the second BO would be a better choice for you if you choose the NC line and stick with the main gunners.
To me, all 4 of the US bb2s are fun to use and worth getting. so you dont necessarily have to go to the NC line if you dont think you would like the NC. you can be an US bb enthusiast like me and try to get all 4 bb2s! (i only have 3 :[ )

my other suggestion would be to try and BVE your support crew too. Sodak won't be that much fun if you can only drive it in the low-40 knot range. it'll definitely boost your SD. But playing with low SD really teaches you how to drive your ship so its not at all a bad thing.
*btw i would suggest selling the atlanta and buy a brooklyn for AA.

you can find out how to post pictures by going to Trade and Barter forum -> view old data -> Guide to how to post your trade.

  • Re : In need of some advice.

    08. 09. 2011 13:27


KingCong
sounds like you have pretty decent gunners. The sodak guns are the problem. try to stay with it for a few levels and you might notice a little tightening or it may be placebo. Many players before you had to go through the inconsistent spread without the luxury of a sevas or the time to start a new line.

I also agree with toughening it out to iowa and then start a second line. It is just nice to have as BB4 are actually competitive in BB rooms or fleet battles.

When going the second line, having the sevas will be nice since you will be able to fit lots of sailors on there and still have the bb3 range youre use to.

  • Re : In need of some advice.

    08. 09. 2011 13:35


OttoReinhold
It's not that your gunners are bad. It's just that they are basically at level. If they had less vets they would be even worse, lol. But at level 80 most other gunners are just as bad as yours with the first BB3 gunset.

That's why the 2-BO-rule is so handy. If you level 2 BOs for one crew your gunners will be 10+ levels ahead when your BOs reach lvl 80. Obviously then they have no troubles with bad spread. The same applies to your supports. Although 500 SD doesn't sound particularly worrying if you haven't BVE'd them yet.

  • Re : In need of some advice.

    08. 09. 2011 13:52


aingeal
Originally Posted by MonkeyLt

Thank you very much, On a side note i know my support isnt great because at level 80ish my sd isnt 900 or even close my sd at the moment is under 500. I have 2 repairers 1 restorer and 2 engineers and my scout all lvl 60-70s plus my aa gunners which is my main set up I do have 2 more engineers and one more repairer these last 3 I mentioned are around lvl 40. Im starting to level to a NC bo right now thank you again, Sorry for sounding like a noob.



switch the restore over to CV or SS crew. Its not exactly made for a BB, and takes a leveling spot in my mind.

That said I suppose even if you keep it on, you still use it after, and you'll have 2 BOs to level the rest of the support, so you could get minimal effect on the end result done well.

But I simply do not like restore on a BB. I find a rep might give less SD at lower level, the extra rep is quite welcome.

I'd suggest getting one more rep or one more engy.

And thats alright, your crew is less fucked up than mine when I got to Sodak on my first BB go (was lvl 75 then)

  • Re : In need of some advice.

    08. 10. 2011 01:11


MonkeyLt
I have heard the restorers is near useless which is unforunate, one of my repairers and engineers are bved but only one of each. I appreciate the feed back now I know I havent screwed up my gunners which was a slight worry, Thank you guys

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