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Suggestion: FORUM new tool/
09. 02. 2011 13:04
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Humberto20
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I would like to suggest a new tool for the forums, in the last couple of days, some threads were flammable. My suggestion
is, give users a new tool to apost a thread with an option to vote if they like idea or no, An option for players, taht disables
response, and this can help to avoid flam replies from people that doesnt like this or that, even from both sides.
Benefits:
Confidential Votes
No flamming when thread is disabled by user for replies.
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Re : Suggestion: FORUM new tool/
09. 02. 2011 13:39
aingeal
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The point of the suggestion section is to encourage discussion of such ideas.
The thing is, some people do not like discussion, and bring a flame accusation on any post that disagree with them.
Also, 1 recc a day, and its unanymous already. You can or not post you have recc'ed on the thread.
The one recc a day also normally would make sure you think before recc'ing but I freely admit its currently not the case.
A poll doesnt have any shades of grey. So someone who thinks your idea might have some nice element, but doesnt like another part of it will prolly only vote no, and you won't know why.
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Re : Suggestion: FORUM new tool/
09. 02. 2011 13:40
ljsevern
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So basically you can censor opinions that disagree with you, and so you can't have people proving you wrong?
De-recommended.
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Re : Suggestion: FORUM new tool/
09. 02. 2011 13:44
Humberto20
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Originally Posted by ljsevern
So basically you can censor opinions that disagree with you, and so you can't have people proving you wrong?
De-recommended.
Like i said, there is options with No recommended, recommended. That option is for, to avoid, flames.not for censor.
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Re : Suggestion: FORUM new tool/
09. 02. 2011 14:03
aingeal
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Originally Posted by Humberto20
Originally Posted by ljsevern
So basically you can censor opinions that disagree with you, and so you can't have people proving you wrong?
De-recommended.
Like i said, there is options with No recommended, recommended. That option is for, to avoid, flames.not for censor.
Well seeing as you tend to classify flames as a post disagreeing with you, you have to admit the proposition here is on a thin line.
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Re : Suggestion: FORUM new tool/
09. 02. 2011 14:15
Humberto20
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Originally Posted by aingeal
Originally Posted by Humberto20
Originally Posted by ljsevern
So basically you can censor opinions that disagree with you, and so you can't have people proving you wrong?
De-recommended.
Like i said, there is options with No recommended, recommended. That option is for, to avoid, flames.not for censor.
Well seeing as you tend to classify flames as a post disagreeing with you, you have to admit the proposition here is on a thin line.
Let me re tell you this, i m suggesting for "OPTIONS", when you are about to post, you also have the option to disable comments, but only commenting your suggestion. While you suggest it, there will 2 options ; recommended, and anti recommended. Isnt that fair, isnt better, to keep threads with flamming away?
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Re : Suggestion: FORUM new tool/
09. 02. 2011 14:23
aingeal
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Originally Posted by Humberto20
Originally Posted by aingeal
Originally Posted by Humberto20
Originally Posted by ljsevern
So basically you can censor opinions that disagree with you, and so you can't have people proving you wrong?
De-recommended.
Like i said, there is options with No recommended, recommended. That option is for, to avoid, flames.not for censor.
Well seeing as you tend to classify flames as a post disagreeing with you, you have to admit the proposition here is on a thin line.
Let me re tell you this, i m suggesting for "OPTIONS", when you are about to post, you also have the option to disable comments, but only commenting your suggestion. While you suggest it, there will 2 options ; recommended, and anti recommended. Isnt that fair, isnt better, to keep threads with flamming away?
Yes, I understand perfectly what it is about. As I said, you ask for a -recommend, that I do not think is a good idea. Being not convinced or being totally against would be the same. You recc the thread you find the most worthy, you have 1 recc a day. I like that system. Then you ask for removal of the feature that brings discussion because the last few topics you posted weren't well received, and you do not feel you need to justify yourself in your suggestions. I am against that. Everyone needs to be accountable to their suggestion, and questionned on them.
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Re : Suggestion: FORUM new tool/
09. 02. 2011 14:35
Humberto20
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Originally Posted by aingeal
Originally Posted by Humberto20
Originally Posted by aingeal
Originally Posted by Humberto20
Originally Posted by ljsevern
So basically you can censor opinions that disagree with you, and so you can't have people proving you wrong?
De-recommended.
Like i said, there is options with No recommended, recommended. That option is for, to avoid, flames.not for censor.
Well seeing as you tend to classify flames as a post disagreeing with you, you have to admit the proposition here is on a thin line.
Let me re tell you this, i m suggesting for "OPTIONS", when you are about to post, you also have the option to disable comments, but only commenting your suggestion. While you suggest it, there will 2 options ; recommended, and anti recommended. Isnt that fair, isnt better, to keep threads with flamming away?
Yes, I understand perfectly what it is about. As I said, you ask for a -recommend, that I do not think is a good idea. Being not convinced or being totally against would be the same. You recc the thread you find the most worthy, you have 1 recc a day. I like that system. Then you ask for removal of the feature that brings discussion because the last few topics you posted weren't well received, and you do not feel you need to justify yourself in your suggestions. I am against that. Everyone needs to be accountable to their suggestion, and questionned on them.
No, im not asking for that removal. Im asking for an altenate Option, that allows that user to disable his thread in the suggestion area, not affecting everybody else. I believe, the recommendations or the anti recommendations , can speak for themselves.
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Re : Suggestion: FORUM new tool/
09. 02. 2011 14:47
Blazer4show
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Here is the way I see it.
There have been several threads [even recently] that were more or less rant suggestions (IE buff this, nerf that). Clearly no value to it, will be critiqued, and honestly I could see several people (would love to name names, but alas...) would simply create another thread referencing it and fill up an already cluttered section of the forums.
Most people in real life that make a proposal have to defend it in one manner or another to be taken seriously. Those that would CHOOSE to disable comments are in some manner of their mind thinking that it is questionable (be it lack of support, risque topic, or any number of other reasons), and fear the responses or do not want to justify or tweak an idea. Very few ideas I have seen in real life have ever been the first proposed. Rather they have been a suggestion built on by the originator's and others input. Remember the old adage, 2 heads are better than 1.
To be honest I do not think I have ever rec'd a suggestion before. I have however posted support, expanded, or critiqued suggestions. The people you will really want to support an idea (or listen to) on this section of the forums are the ones who are going to be experienced [in the game], honest [whether good or bad] and willing to back up their own comments and opinions with some type of proof, evidence, or rationale. Outside of those people your just getting random, thoughtless posts, usually agree/disagree at the moment.
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Re : Suggestion: FORUM new tool/
09. 02. 2011 15:56
ljsevern
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Originally Posted by Humberto20
Originally Posted by ljsevern
So basically you can censor opinions that disagree with you, and so you can't have people proving you wrong?
De-recommended.
Like i said, there is options with No recommended, recommended. That option is for, to avoid, flames.not for censor.
It doesn't matter what it is for, it will end up censoring people. If people read a suggestion that says "Remove all Subs", and agree's with it and recommends it, because there is nothing to persuade them that Submarines shouldn't be removed, then that is hugely wrong. There should always be the opportunity for someone to post their point of view with facts and evidence, and that is something I feel strongly about.
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Re : Suggestion: FORUM new tool/
09. 02. 2011 16:39
Humberto20
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Originally Posted by ljsevern
Originally Posted by Humberto20
Originally Posted by ljsevern
So basically you can censor opinions that disagree with you, and so you can't have people proving you wrong?
De-recommended.
Like i said, there is options with No recommended, recommended. That option is for, to avoid, flames.not for censor.
It doesn't matter what it is for, it will end up censoring people. If people read a suggestion that says "Remove all Subs", and agree's with it and recommends it, because there is nothing to persuade them that Submarines shouldn't be removed, then that is hugely wrong. There should always be the opportunity for someone to post their point of view with facts and evidence, and that is something I feel strongly about.
So you think not censoring people who flames, its ok? Do you think that is acceptable to be lucked when sometimes, a suggestion made by another player or me, its closed due to flammed? Well i dont think SDE will never delete submarines for 1 single reason; its a great source of earning profti, which i doubt submarines and PHH will ever be deleted from the game.Like i said Ljsevern, there will 2 options , recommend it or anti recommend it. If a players, wants to get a recommendations, he needs to post something good, if his thread is poorly organized and not enough " evidence, proof, good arguments like you were saying in the last 24 hours, then the reader just click either recomendations or not recommendations. Of course , everyone has the opportunity to participate, but we also, have the right to choose our methods to create our post, unless there is freedom to do so. I know as there is also, freedom of speech. But, this option its to DECREASE FLAMING.
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