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SN SS5
10. 13. 2011 06:45
Wulfman
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At last I got my SN SS5 but first reflektion is speed.
With exactly same setup as SS4 I got 3 knots less. 38 knots to 35 knots ?!
This feels like a downgrade not upgrade, anyone else got any input on SS5 ?
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Re : SN SS5
10. 13. 2011 12:54
darkknight23
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i don't own the ss5 for SN yet, but on my US SS5, i've have the same thing.with engys on only i got about 40 knots. with the full crew i hit 37knots.
it seems no one has a crew that can hit 40 knots, i met i guy with 3engys elite and 120 and he hasnt capped yet.
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Re : SN SS5
10. 13. 2011 20:43
GHHalley
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It seems that all SS5's are slower than SS4 -- heard the same complaint of IJN, KM, and US (though I also heard US was faster). I think this was purposeful by NF. At the same time, they compensated with longer dive times, and some farther ranging attacks (large guns, planes, etc). I think as your supports go up (as you have more room), you will see the sub having similar speeds to SS4s.
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Re : SN SS5
10. 14. 2011 01:26
Wulfman
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Nerfing speed like this is totaly wrong.
Speed and momentum (OH) is one of the most importants factors of subdrivning. I understand speedcap etc. but nerfing SS5 like this is stupid.
Have no more room for (support) sailors in SN SS5 its the same.
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Re : SN SS5
10. 14. 2011 04:11
Archaron
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i dont know what u do guys but i reach speed cap on uss ss5 with two +12 engies lvl 92, 34/40
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Re : SN SS5
10. 14. 2011 05:17
Wulfman
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Originally Posted by Archaron
i dont know what u do guys but i reach speed cap on uss ss5 with two +12 engies lvl 92, 34/40
Bought my US SS5 now. With one 120 lvl highboosted engy i easily reached cap speed in US SS4. Now I can only reach 37 knots with same setup in Gato SS5. This is not right or logical thinking from SD. Speeds and momentum (OH) should not be affected when you switch from SS4 to SS5 with same setup and crew. (SN subs requried 2 engys frpm beginning) Conclusion they nerfed speed and momentum in SS5 compared to SS4. I
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Re : SN SS5
10. 15. 2011 02:00
danita
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Originally Posted by Wulfman
Originally Posted by Archaron
i dont know what u do guys but i reach speed cap on uss ss5 with two +12 engies lvl 92, 34/40
Bought my US SS5 now. With one 120 lvl highboosted engy i easily reached cap speed in US SS4. Now I can only reach 37 knots with same setup in Gato SS5. This is not right or logical thinking from SD. Speeds and momentum (OH) should not be affected when you switch from SS4 to SS5 with same setup and crew.
Why should it not? When switching from BB or Cv 3 to 4 or from 4 to 5 in general you need better( or more) engineers as well to cap OH, why should SS be exempt from that?
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Re : SN SS5
10. 15. 2011 05:27
Wulfman
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Originally Posted by danita
Originally Posted by Wulfman
Originally Posted by Archaron
i dont know what u do guys but i reach speed cap on uss ss5 with two +12 engies lvl 92, 34/40
Bought my US SS5 now. With one 120 lvl highboosted engy i easily reached cap speed in US SS4. Now I can only reach 37 knots with same setup in Gato SS5. This is not right or logical thinking from SD. Speeds and momentum (OH) should not be affected when you switch from SS4 to SS5 with same setup and crew.
Why should it not? When switching from BB or Cv 3 to 4 or from 4 to 5 in general you need better( or more) engineers as well to cap OH, why should SS be exempt from that?
You cant compare SS with BB/CV its totaly different. Its like comparing apples and bananas (which im going soon of they dont buff ss5). Whats most important in BB ? Speed comes after guns, range, armor etc. Whats most important in CV ? Speed comes after planesability, how many planes, etc. In a Sub speed and momentum is everything and one of the most important factors, because the whole idea is to get to opponents side as fast as u can, attack or defend other subs (outturn or outrun them) or chase ships. When you cripple speed in SS5 you affect ability much more then other ships.
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Re : SN SS5
10. 15. 2011 10:12
richardphat
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Even majority of DD,CL,CA requires a very high vetted engineers to speedcap with few engineers.
If you expect a ship to be operational with utter fail support, don't expect much.
Yet, the speedcap for cetrain SS needs to be harder to get.
If you realize it cripple the ability of your SS gameplay. Then you realize how it cripple the ability of a BB with fail support, or a CV with 1-2 fighter/bomber.
At the end, comparing apple and orange is still valid if we talk about speed and support.
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Re : SN SS5
10. 15. 2011 10:47
Wulfman
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Originally Posted by richardphat
Even majority of DD,CL,CA requires a very high vetted engineers to speedcap with few engineers.
If you expect a ship to be operational with utter fail support, don't expect much.
Yet, the speedcap for cetrain SS needs to be harder to get.
If you realize it cripple the ability of your SS gameplay. Then you realize how it cripple the ability of a BB with fail support, or a CV with 1-2 fighter/bomber.
At the end, comparing apple and orange is still valid if we talk about speed and support.
So you dont think I have support lol, been playing this game on and off since firsta beta test. In SN Sub I have 2 EBVE lvl100 engys with 200 veterans. In Gato 120 lvl *********************************************** "Yet, the speedcap for cetrain SS needs to be harder to get" Why SS5, this is only stupid.
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Re : SN SS5
10. 15. 2011 11:42
richardphat
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- Certain SS needs to be harder to speedcap as well that includes lower tier.
- With respect, I am shocked when you call yourself beta tester, and start complaining why you can't speedcap yet and consider it as a nerf.
Now it has nothing to do with the topic.
Seriously 3 engineers only 2 SN and 1 USN? With no offense, but that isn't great support and should not even be called support for sub especially we're talking about SS5.
What are you doing when the Gato has 5 total support slots and 3 remaining?
What are you doing when the D class has 5 support slots, 2 takeout from sonar and planesman? What about the 1 left?
Did you bother retraining?
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