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  • Mandel

    03. 13. 2012 20:11


Woodler

hello guys, on ship tree , mandel is required level 53, at shop required level 58. which one is actually correct ?

 

  • Re : Mandel

    03. 14. 2012 01:33


thorhammer7

lvl 53 is correct

  • Re : Mandel

    03. 14. 2012 04:37


phantom3553

yep, mandel is 53 after the MN/SN balance patch last year, its just $DE havent change the info of mandel in NF Shop

  • Re : Mandel

    04. 03. 2012 15:13


Harry74

Same with guns space given? In shop it's only 153, in ship tree it's 200.
Which one is true.

Or lets better ask: Which are the biggest gun Mandel can mount on R-slots if you're not going for the AA setup with 5.1" quads? Can it mount the 12" BB (BB1?) guns?

Additional question: I want to use from time to time for fun it with my sub BO which is stripped of crew. So I won't see shells landing which forbids manual aiming. Is it possible to autoaim and hit (quite) proper when not having long enough guidelines?

  • Re : Mandel

    04. 03. 2012 15:41


Nvincible

Originally Posted by Harry74

Same with guns space given? In shop it's only 153, in ship tree it's 200.
Which one is true.

Or lets better ask: Which are the biggest gun Mandel can mount on R-slots if you're not going for the AA setup with 5.1" quads? Can it mount the 12" BB (BB1?) guns?

Additional question: I want to use from time to time for fun it with my sub BO which is stripped of crew. So I won't see shells landing which forbids manual aiming. Is it possible to autoaim and hit (quite) proper when not having long enough guidelines?


Mandel can mount the dual 12" guns.

 

As for auto FCS, I have never tried it myself on a mandel, but I imagine your gun accuracy will be effected as Auo FCS is less accurate then manual.

  • Re : Mandel

    04. 03. 2012 16:38


Harry74

Thanks for info about guns.

Originally Posted by Nvincible
As for auto FCS, I have never tried it myself on a mandel, but I imagine your gun accuracy will be effected as Auo FCS is less accurate then manual.
Really? Auto FCS and aiming FCS show same accuracy rate in game. I know they are less accurate on EU servers but here i thought they have same accuracy but get a XP penalty at the end?
I know crossing lines wouldn't be possible with auto FCS, but if it's same accuracy ships like dunkerque shouldn't have disadvantages? Anybody who has experience with this?

  • Re : Mandel

    04. 09. 2012 01:31


l2evoluti0n

There's presently a blitz player who uses an uber-BVE'd Mandel with the 12-inch duals to rape blitz rooms.  I'm fairly convinced he 'also' used auto (without exception .. landing shells right around the target every time where even the 'best' manual-aimers would lag through their intended angles once in a while).  Auto-lines can, however, cross during a turn and he tries to exploit this to 'prove' he's manual.  Similarly, auto-guns can also appear to fire in opposite directions by simply switching your aim rapidly from one side of the ship to the other.  He also tried to exploit this to 'prove' he was using manual, although with manual these directions of opposite fire are visibly inconsistent (wobbling about the axis of the ship, whereas with manual they would be consistent).

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