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What can be done to entice fleets to do HA?
04. 30. 2012 07:49
TOMMY_CHONG
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This is a serious question. Not meant to troll, just trying to promote HA participation and fleet activity.
What are the reasons many fleets do not do HA?
I think some reasons include:
1.) Some fleets feel they are too small to compete with bigger fleets.
2.) Some fleets would rather not participate in HA, because then they would not have to worry about losing
3.) Some fleets believe smoke crushes skill aspect of HA
4.) Some fleets think BB6 should be limited and other fleets have to many BB/CV6
What are some ways we can accomodate smaller fleets to participate in HA?
1.) Make the new harbors(if they ever open) available only to smaller fleets so they stand a better chance of aquiring a harbor.
2.) Lower the cost of declaration so smaller fleets do not take as big of a financial hit when they declare
3.) Let Harbor owners control the tax rate on harbors(to a certain degree) to give more incentive to own a harbor, or try to gain a harbor.
Please discuss ways HA can be better improved. This is not a bash a fleet topic, this is a genuine topic to try to increase HA activity.
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Re : What can be done to entice fleets to do HA?
04. 30. 2012 07:58
scottirvine
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Well, the problem there are large fleets, but they still can not compete with the mega fleets.
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Re : What can be done to entice fleets to do HA?
04. 30. 2012 08:02
TOMMY_CHONG
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Originally Posted by scottirvine
Well, the problem there are large fleets, but they still can not compete with the mega fleets.
If they open Russian, French, Italian harbors maybe there could be a few tiers for HA attacks. ie.... 1 harbor is for small fleets( x amount of players/ or lvl 120 accounts) another harbor for medium fleets, and a 3rd for large, but not megafleets?
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Re : What can be done to entice fleets to do HA?
04. 30. 2012 08:06
scottirvine
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Originally Posted by TOMMY_CHONG
Originally Posted by scottirvine
Well, the problem there are large fleets, but they still can not compete with the mega fleets.
If they open Russian, French, Italian harbors maybe there could be a few tiers for HA attacks. ie.... 1 harbor is for small fleets( x amount of players/ or lvl 120 accounts) another harbor for medium fleets, and a 3rd for large, but not megafleets?
well yah, if the mega fleets own the large harbors, the "Large" fleets still cant compete with "Mega" fleets.
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Re : What can be done to entice fleets to do HA?
04. 30. 2012 08:10
TOMMY_CHONG
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Well keep the "mega fleets" out of the new harbors... Open the new harbors only to smaller fleets/ not mega fleets.
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Re : What can be done to entice fleets to do HA?
04. 30. 2012 08:11
Cougar8
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Originally Posted by scottirvine
Originally Posted by TOMMY_CHONG
Originally Posted by scottirvine
Well, the problem there are large fleets, but they still can not compete with the mega fleets.
If they open Russian, French, Italian harbors maybe there could be a few tiers for HA attacks. ie.... 1 harbor is for small fleets( x amount of players/ or lvl 120 accounts) another harbor for medium fleets, and a 3rd for large, but not megafleets?
well yah, if the mega fleets own the large harbors, the "Large" fleets still cant compete with "Mega" fleets.
Think of it as divisions in sports, you will only have to compete against people your size. So the large fleets wont have to compete with the mega fleets. Once a fleet feels they are skilled enough/ and or have enough members they cant move up a division.
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Re : What can be done to entice fleets to do HA?
04. 30. 2012 08:42
admyamato
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We have mega fleets holding those harbors? strange, they use lots of mercanaries but ok lets keep naming them mega flotas.
You would be suprised how big the really are without the use of all those mercs.
What can you do about it?
- no penalty
- no mercaries
- open the 3 other borders
NF is all ready aware of these 3 demands, so this thread is pointless.
Oh and perhaps prohibit your own members of being freaking mercenaries for these "mega" fleets. The big fleets you mention here, have most of the times their own members. The mega fleets help eachother out with mercing.
I don't know how to stop the mercs but THAT would increase the chance of fleets that only use their own members instead of a "mega" fleet that has 50% inactive accounts to spend on mercs. Like I said, the mega only stands for: we have lots of inactive accounts to spend during HA, that's the difference between normal fleets and the so called mega fleets.
Besides, the bugs help out the defenders. So defenders start with the upperhand. Enough vids and cases where attackers loses valuable time by crash or bugs. When defenders crash attackers are being flamed if they proceed. Though we all accept these crashes by accepting the EULA. Defenders his favoured.
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Re : What can be done to entice fleets to do HA?
04. 30. 2012 08:44
ljsevern
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1) Remove or limit smoke. It shouldn't be pay to win. They stagnate the game completely.
2) An alliance system; Lets get the whole server involved;
3) More harbours; Have multiple harbours per nation.
4) No limit on number of harbours to be controlled by one fleet or alliance
5) An incentive to hold the harbour; Exp or an economical incentive (tax system)
6) An incentive to take a harbour (As above in number 5)
7) Lack of map bugs
8) Code out exploits (Border humping etc etc)
9) Have a numbers advantage for attackers in rooms apart from the harbour tile
10) Have a repair advantage for the defenders for ships of the nation of the harbour.
11) Increase the cost of declaration for alliances (not for fleets)
12) Have a hard coded auto retreat from an attack if they haven't reached a certain point after a period of time.
T6 ships shouldn't be limited. Its meant to be an epic battle.
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Re : What can be done to entice fleets to do HA?
04. 30. 2012 08:48
TOMMY_CHONG
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Originally Posted by admyamato
NF is all ready aware of these 3 demands, so this thread is pointless
Thanks for your opinion. This is a constructive post, trying to encourage activity in the game. Please be constructive and not derail the thread.
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Re : What can be done to entice fleets to do HA?
04. 30. 2012 08:51
TOMMY_CHONG
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Originally Posted by ljsevern
1) Remove or limit smoke. It shouldn't be pay to win. They stagnate the game completely.
2) An alliance system; Lets get the whole server involved;
3) More harbours; Have multiple harbours per nation.
4) No limit on number of harbours to be controlled by one fleet or alliance
5) An incentive to hold the harbour; Exp or an economical incentive (tax system)
6) An incentive to take a harbour (As above in number 5)
7) Lack of map bugs
8) Code out exploits (Border humping etc etc)
9) Have a numbers advantage for attackers in rooms apart from the harbour tile
10) Have a repair advantage for the defenders for ships of the nation of the harbour.
11) Increase the cost of declaration for alliances (not for fleets)
12) Have a hard coded auto retreat from an attack if they haven't reached a certain point after a period of time.
T6 ships shouldn't be limited. Its meant to be an epic battle.
Good points LJ. All would help HA mode.
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Re : What can be done to entice fleets to do HA?
04. 30. 2012 08:55
admyamato
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Originally Posted by TOMMY_CHONG
Originally Posted by admyamato
NF is all ready aware of these 3 demands, so this thread is pointless
Thanks for your opinion. This is a constructive post, trying to encourage activity in the game. Please be constructive and not derail the thread.
My constructive point is in the rest of the thread. Mainly that "small" fleets shouldn't be so chicken. These mega flotas just have more accounts, fantastic for using mercs. Main problem is mercaries. Do something about mercs and you'll give all these "small" fleet way more chances instead of all those stupid alliance crap, nerfing bb6 numbers and smoke crap
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