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  • Classing fighters

    05. 03. 2012 21:48

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Zaff

I got bored and took some numbers from NF calc to see just how much true ability difference there is between leaving your pilots at the fighter class to gain more sailors, or classing up to SQ. this has prolly been done to death. but here it is.

 its (4V + E)*ability = TA.

boosted fighter base 12 @120 with max vets:

crew = 650; ability = 3612; Maxvets = 260; Experts = 390

(4*260 + 390)3612   

(1040+390)*3612

1430*3612 = 5 165 160

 

boosted SQ base 12 @ 120 with max vets:

crew = 545; ability = 3942; maxvets = 218; experts = 327

(4*218+327)*3942

(872+327)*3942

1199*3942 = 4 726 458

 

5 165 160 - 4 726 458 = 438 702 True ability.

 

the difference assuming both have 100 vets and max experts is just over 100k true ability. it would take A LOT of cash to Vet to 260 and only for 400k TA advantage. of caorse its about a 1.8 M true aability advantage if the other guy doesnt vet. so vetting is huge and SQ should be nuked from out of the classing list. and Ace as well should be nuked.

This is menial in the end however as Kite wins.

lvl 100 kite > lvl 120 fight!  but if you have slow planes ur pwned. you must be uber overvets no ace no sq.

 

unless of coarse theres a cap......................................................................

EDIT: these numbers are from US pilots in NFcalc

 

  • Re : Classing fighters

    05. 04. 2012 10:02


richardphat

Yes, it has been shown already that depending on how much vets and experts. It makes the difference.

This applies to all fighter nation.

  • Re : Classing fighters

    05. 06. 2012 20:16


Rehor

Find the fighter cap and people will start caring again.

  • Re : Classing fighters

    05. 07. 2012 07:24


Ewood

An if you're crappy at micro'ing, it still won't make a difference...

  • Re : Classing fighters

    05. 07. 2012 07:45


V2CxBongRipz

Originally Posted by Rehor

Find the fighter cap and people will start caring again.

 

Unless of course defense really is uncapped.

  • Re : Classing fighters

    06. 27. 2012 08:29


HKO2006

Thx for the calculation! I have heard about this before but I can't find a solid proof.

My fleetmate however said he tested lv.120 SQ FP vs lv.120 FP (with more vets) and lv.100 SQ FP vs lv.100 FP (with more vets).

The SQ FPs won.

 

That's all he told me. More tests are needed. Like lv.75 SQ FP vs lv.75 FP.

  • Re : Classing fighters

    06. 29. 2012 03:17


Vikos

I made a lot of math to calculate the exact data...

No class have just a few true skill more if you have full experts and vet crew, cause with less base skill your vets and experts are less effective...

AND more important, if you put a sailorman that increase base skill or like put more vets? dont know how really works. Both means that classed sailor with better base skill will get more true skill at the end...

I recomend class them: less sailors to make experts and vets and similar results....

  • Re : Classing fighters

    06. 29. 2012 04:46


min012

Adalbert´s Guide or whatever ;)

"Classing Fighters:

Example pilot : US - full EBVE level 120
1) Classed only figher: 650 crew - 3703 ability displayed - 260 vets max
2) Classed ace pilot : 590 crew - 3919 ability displayed - 236 vets max
3) Classed sq leader : 545 crew - 4027 ability displayed - 218 vets max.

So based on adalbert guides for true ability calculation (lets assume full crew for all cases and 0 rokies to make the other factor 1):
(4*Nvets + Nexp)*(abilty displayed) = true ability

Lets review with our example pilots at diferent vets value:

109 vets - 150 vets - 210 vets - 240 vets - Max vets (#)
1) 3'015,022 - 3'394,600 - 3'950,080 - 4'227,820 - 4'412,980 (260vets)
2) 2'994,922 - 3'396,640 - 3'984,520 - cant reach - 4'239,268 (236vets)
3) 2'926,432 - 3'339,220 - 3'943,300 - cant reach - 4'023,844 (218vets)."

  • Re : Classing fighters

    01. 11. 2014 08:30


Joker789

They should be classed as the others classes after reaches 120 or just leave them as FP forever?

 

Thanks Joker.

  • Re : Classing fighters

    01. 11. 2014 08:37


EricIdle

Originally Posted by Joker789

They should be classed as the others classes after reaches 120 or just leave them as FP forever?

 

Thanks Joker.

There's no difference.

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