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No one feels T5 scout OPed?
05. 12. 2012 00:10
neuroeva
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Why SDE design a scout that can not be shot down if properly controled(faster than T4 fighter, see further than AA gun range and more agile than local fighters)? The power and range of BB6 is enough incentive for level up!
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Re : No one feels T5 scout OPed?
05. 12. 2012 00:24
Yiweno
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Re : No one feels T5 scout OPed?
05. 12. 2012 03:56
SaseCaiBlele
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Originally Posted by Yiweno
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lol replay
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Re : No one feels T5 scout OPed?
05. 12. 2012 05:16
ljsevern
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They are overpowered and will be nerfed. Feel free to join the discussion on the test server forum.
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Re : No one feels T5 scout OPed?
05. 12. 2012 05:54
Rehor
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Buff the Italian 120 scout.
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Re : No one feels T5 scout OPed?
05. 12. 2012 06:45
normpearii
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Only thing I'm going to point out is:
1.) The T5 scouts and T4 fighters go the same speed.
2.) Fighters gain speed when in attack mode, which makes T4 fighters faster than T5 scouts The problem is, USN T4 fighter/ T5 scout speed compared to say UK, making that speed advantage somewhere around only 5-15, which gets negated by scouts turn speed.
3.) Properly managed fighters can kill T5 scouts. Even properly managed scouts can be kill by T4 fighters if they players knows how to dogfight properly.
4.) They are slightly OPed but the changes to fighters for CVs to have 5 tiers should fix that anyway. Regardless if T5 scouts are changed or not.
Also, atm, a lvl 120 scout performing better than a lvl 100 fighter isn't so surprising. The only problem is the lack of higher level fighter at 120 to properly balance the T5 scout. Which I'm sure the CV changes will fix that gap.
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Re : No one feels T5 scout OPed?
05. 12. 2012 07:04
ljsevern
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Originally Posted by normpearii
Only thing I'm going to point out is:
1.) The T5 scouts and T4 fighters go the same speed.
2.) Fighters gain speed when in attack mode, which makes T4 fighters faster than T5 scouts The problem is, USN T4 fighter/ T5 scout speed compared to say UK, making that speed advantage somewhere around only 5-15, which gets negated by scouts turn speed.
3.) Properly managed fighters can kill T5 scouts. Even properly managed scouts can be kill by T4 fighters if they players knows how to dogfight properly.
4.) They are slightly OPed but the changes to fighters for CVs to have 5 tiers should fix that anyway. Regardless if T5 scouts are changed or not.
Also, atm, a lvl 120 scout performing better than a lvl 100 fighter isn't so surprising. The only problem is the lack of higher level fighter at 120 to properly balance the T5 scout. Which I'm sure the CV changes will fix that gap.
1) Wrong. They are only equal when the T4 fighters"lock on" and that is only between some nations. When micromanaged, T5 scouts can't be caught by chasing fighters.
2) They actually don't gain enough speed when locking on. The only ones that come close are the US and IJN ones, and they can't chase down a T5 scout quick enough to kill it.
3) To kill T5 scouts with fighters, the scout either needs to be unmicro'ed, or run straight into fighters. Either way, its a mistake on the scouts user end.
4) Actually, its the combination of speed, sight range, AAW/Plane attack resistance, Health and attack that makes it overpowered.
The CV changes will fix this gap. However there are a number of stages. Once the whole thing is on the server however, it is going to be awesome. But its a long road to get down there, a lot of testing and a lot of discussion.
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Re : No one feels T5 scout OPed?
05. 12. 2012 07:44
devildog8
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correct me if im wrong but wasnt some recon aircraft created to out run fighters, I dont see the big deal here, T5 still gets shot down, im not seeing the huge issue everyone is making it to be
the British Mosquito, primarily built of wood, the Mosquito was very fast and could outrun most Axis fighters
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Re : No one feels T5 scout OPed?
05. 12. 2012 07:56
ljsevern
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Originally Posted by devildog8
correct me if im wrong but wasnt some recon aircraft created to out run fighters, I dont see the big deal here, T5 still gets shot down, im not seeing the huge issue everyone is making it to be
the British Mosquito, primarily built of wood, the Mosquito was very fast and could outrun most Axis fighters
RL =/= Game balance, and with a decent player, the T5 scout doesn't get shot down. It quite literally has no counter whatsoever, other than the enemy using the same T5 scouts.
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Re : No one feels T5 scout OPed?
05. 12. 2012 11:11
Yiweno
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Considering how T1-4 scouts are almost completely useless and the only way to scout is with fighters, T5 scouts are not OP. Once the balancing is done on the fighters and scouts it should be a lot more balanced, so you can actually scout with scouts.
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Re : No one feels T5 scout OPed?
05. 12. 2012 17:32
FalleNStaR
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Make all scouts have T5 speed, with different durability per tier. Nuke FTR sight to next to nothing. problem solved.
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