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  • Just how are you suppose to fight them subs?

    05. 18. 2012 09:05


Brewy

... returning after a loong break from this game most seems to be as they where when I left but one thing strikes me... how am I as a BB suppose to fight subs in the game?

For some reason it seems I have to give up a support slot for a sonar man and being KM support slots are rare - but have i missed something or is it a fact I have to chose between AA or Anti-sub weapons?

Shouldnt it be possible to have your AA guns/gunners use some HedgeHogs or what?

 

And please - I know its a team thing - but seriously... be serious. ;)

 

  • Re : Just how are you suppose to fight them subs?

    05. 18. 2012 09:06


tappo01

You arent supposed to fight them. Try to avoid them and if one of them manages to catch up to you then start running, wait for him to run out of air and shoot.

  • Re : Just how are you suppose to fight them subs?

    05. 18. 2012 09:29


Mezak76

Fisrt, sonarman don´t work in BBs.

Some players use HH in their BBs, but for use them you will by in one this situations.
1 - There is  a FF/DD or other SS than can see enemy SS and help you to attack it with HH.
2 - If can can see enemy torpedoes maybe can guess where is the SS.

As Tapp said, you are not supposed to fight SS in your BB and apply the tactis that he mention.
However, if you have a low tier BB and your AA sucks, could mount some HH, just in case but that´s all. 

You can mount A in one part os T slots and HH in the other, but I think that will be to mant tasks to combine.

Personally for alow tier BB I try to hunt CA a smaller ships, use a scout to provide vision and, if situation allows it, sink most enemy BBs as possible.

Good luck. 

  • Re : Just how are you suppose to fight them subs?

    05. 18. 2012 11:15


V2CxBongRipz

DDs and FFs dont need a sonarman to see subs so you can use one as an escort if you can deal with the escort crossing you from time to time. Also AA gunners have been given the ability to use HH guns.

  • Re : Just how are you suppose to fight them subs?

    05. 18. 2012 11:20


KingCong

It is suppose to be a rick/paper/scissor scenario with BB/SS/DD. The current problem is when there isnt an even balance among the 3 (in terms of reward).

  • Re : Just how are you suppose to fight them subs?

    05. 18. 2012 12:34


Brewy

Thanks for the replies.

Im H44 so Im just one big fat target - cant blame the subs going after me. I cant get enough speed to outrun them - they are simply to fast. Often - they are also around me in the middle of battles with enemy battleships.

My AA guys can use hedgehogs...only the H44 :

A: cant load any ammo to the hedhehogs

B: can only load two sets of naval mines (and they are pretty much useless unless you are directly over the enemy sub).

So I really have no chance aginst enemy subs unless I go for the escort ship--- and thats not really something I ever liked. Oh well - cant argue with the huge player base that seems satisfied with the way things are.

 

Once again thanks for the answers.

 

 

  • Re : Just how are you suppose to fight them subs?

    05. 18. 2012 12:57


MaskdBandit

Originally Posted by Brewy

Thanks for the replies.

Im H44 so Im just one big fat target - cant blame the subs going after me. I cant get enough speed to outrun them - they are simply to fast. Often - they are also around me in the middle of battles with enemy battleships.

My AA guys can use hedgehogs...only the H44 :

A: cant load any ammo to the hedhehogs

B: can only load two sets of naval mines (and they are pretty much useless unless you are directly over the enemy sub).

So I really have no chance aginst enemy subs unless I go for the escort ship--- and thats not really something I ever liked. Oh well - cant argue with the huge player base that seems satisfied with the way things are.

 

Once again thanks for the answers.

 

 



Depth Charges, (referred to on the forums as DCs) are rarely used on BBs. Usually just FF/DDs

I'll bet you're trying to use the X7 HH launchers. Those only use premium ammunitions, otherwise you should have no problem using the X5s (they're significantly weaker than the X7s, in both number of shells fired as well as damage of each shell it seems) assuming you have proper gunners on, which like V2C said, now includes AA gunners ^-^ . They'll do just fine so long as you can manual aim them well enough. I recommend gradual firing and manual aiming with them.

  • Re : Just how are you suppose to fight them subs?

    05. 18. 2012 13:22


V2CxBongRipz

Originally Posted by Brewy

So I really have no chance aginst enemy subs unless I go for the escort ship--- and thats not really something I ever liked. Oh well - cant argue with the huge player base that seems satisfied with the way things are.

 

No one with half a brain denies there are problems with subs and ASW in their current state but its what we are stuck with right now since SDE wanted to rush the new nations so quickly without fixing what we already had.

 

Anyway in H44 you probobly know AA is your best friend so using HH will take away one of your biggest advantages. Its best to just avoid subs and hope you have some ASW players on your side that can help you out. You are able to outrun submerged subs in H44 but they will catch you while surfaced.

  • Re : Just how are you suppose to fight them subs?

    05. 18. 2012 13:33


ljsevern

Just hope they don't know how to crit dive. If they do, the only thing you can do is use PHH to keep them in crit dive.

  • Re : Just how are you suppose to fight them subs?

    05. 18. 2012 15:33


Eufonioum

I would say your best weapon is your "speed". If you don't have that, well you might as well just sink and go to the next room, because it is GG for you. 

Also, another great way to fight them is to ask your subs to perform ASW. 

  • Re : Just how are you suppose to fight them subs?

    05. 18. 2012 15:43


phantom3553

Originally Posted by Brewy

And please - I know its a team thing

out of 9k-10k games i played maybe around 1k-2k games i have am in a side that plays as a team

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