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  • fastest or most efficient way to level a BB crew to 120?

    05. 26. 2012 03:15

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TheAviator

just wondering the last event, people that use RM level their crew from 1 to 120 in less than a month. Yeah I know there is a 200% boost ,but how do they do it ? everytime you move to the next tier of ship you will gain additional support slots.


now I have a CL 5(4) and Im rotating my supports sailors, my support sailors are 5 engineers ,2 repairers and a scout.

my goal to that crew is up to somewhere BB2 whereis 5(6) and then when i hit BB3 stage I will level another BO and will level another Repairer and 2 Engineers. 



I'm wondering what you guys did? did you just rotate all your supports as you level with 1 BO? 

 

  • Re : fastest or most efficient way to level a BB crew to 120?

    05. 26. 2012 14:46


phantom3553

what nation did you pick? you should roll another bo and additional supports for your bb6 crew and another pair of gunners

 

what i did during meh MN bb grind was level my first BO and all of my supports to until they capped out in blitz (i already rolled another BO and another pair of gunners(for aa)) and started to level it using the supports until i capped it out in blitz then i go back to meh first BO and level it to bb3, when ever my supports lag behing meh first BO I switch to my second BO to level that support

 

on my KM BB Grind, i just level my main BO to bb1 level then switch to my 2nd km BO and level my support and AA gunners on the other line

  • Re : fastest or most efficient way to level a BB crew to 120?

    05. 26. 2012 14:50


MaskdBandit

PBB makes a huge difference for one thing. Most people who are going to hardcore grind a shipline invest in them. PCAs are also a huge help (AA also helps with experts if you're on a budget). Both of these ships don't need the BO to be the "BO" as well so it doesn't get ahead (and you get to level an extra support sailor if you feel you need to without doing an entire new BO grind).

I never recommend two BOs myself. Even without premium ships, if your BO gets too far ahead of your supports, simply only use whatever lvl of ship your supports are appropriate for. It will be annoying when you know you have a BB5 BO and your supports are only 90ish (or whatever), but it's still faster than doing two whole seperate BO grinds. 

Edit: I presume you should be able to buy at least one or two premium ships because if you're so concerned about grinding quickly and smoothly you should at least have premium as well. 

  • Re : fastest or most efficient way to level a BB crew to 120?

    05. 27. 2012 06:06


danita

Originally Posted by MaskdBandit

I never recommend two BOs myself. Even without premium ships, if your BO gets too far ahead of your supports, simply only use whatever lvl of ship your supports are appropriate for. It will be annoying when you know you have a BB5 BO and your supports are only 90ish (or whatever), but it's still faster than doing two whole seperate BO grinds. 


Fail reasoning fails pretty hard.
BO earns 20% more xp than support.
If supports are to gain more xp than  the BO, you'd have to be using ships that are at least 32 lvl's lower than the BO, while the supports still gain full xp. That only happens if you don't rotate sailors, but leave some behind. So for most ppl supports will only fall farther behind the BO, even if you use the correct ship for them. Only using an engineer as PBB BO will allow supports to catch up to a BO, but not everyone likes using a BO with far too long guidelines.

If you plan on using a PBB, 2 BO's do not have to be brought up all that high, the 2nd BO probably doesn't need to be used all that much beyond PBB lvl to keep the supports in touch with your main BO ( standard 14 sailor crew). That's not all that much extra time for the 2nd BO.

  • Re : fastest or most efficient way to level a BB crew to 120?

    05. 27. 2012 10:39


Obsessed

Leech like everyone else. 

  • Re : fastest or most efficient way to level a BB crew to 120?

    05. 27. 2012 17:43


MaskdBandit

Originally Posted by danita

Originally Posted by MaskdBandit

I never recommend two BOs myself. Even without premium ships, if your BO gets too far ahead of your supports, simply only use whatever lvl of ship your supports are appropriate for. It will be annoying when you know you have a BB5 BO and your supports are only 90ish (or whatever), but it's still faster than doing two whole seperate BO grinds. 


Fail reasoning fails pretty hard.
BO earns 20% more xp than support.
If supports are to gain more xp than  the BO, you'd have to be using ships that are at least 32 lvl's lower than the BO, while the supports still gain full xp. That only happens if you don't rotate sailors, but leave some behind. So for most ppl supports will only fall farther behind the BO, even if you use the correct ship for them. Only using an engineer as PBB BO will allow supports to catch up to a BO, but not everyone likes using a BO with far too long guidelines.

If you plan on using a PBB, 2 BO's do not have to be brought up all that high, the 2nd BO probably doesn't need to be used all that much beyond PBB lvl to keep the supports in touch with your main BO ( standard 14 sailor crew). That's not all that much extra time for the 2nd BO.



Did... Did you read the words I used?... Fail fail is fail lol fail... -_-
Oh internet hipsters being ironic.

Saying it's "not all that much longer" is failed rhetoric, because what I suggested doesn't involve any extra time wasted on your second BO. Nothing ever falls behind, only the BO gets ahead because, well, it's the BO (plus gunners and hopefully scout, obviously). As many sailors are getting as much experience as is possible for their level. Period. 
Anything else is just preference.

It's just math. By the time you get to ships where you can use at least half of your crew (therefore at the point where you can factor in which way you want to do things from that point) if you go two BOs you're always one sailor short for both grinds (your BO) by default, as well as the less slots you're using because you're on low level ships twice.

At lowest levels (basically up until PCA) the loss of exp over your entire crew is less than you gain by having the extra support slot(s) from having one crew. It's then at PCA+ (10 supports if using same gunners, which being ahead can also be swapped depending on if AAing vs main guns or whatever you're doing) where you're at a perfect time to catch up to BO when the supports are all already close to each other. The entire time you're lvling more guys at the same time. 

Therefore, with PCA you're leveling 10 crewmen (all of your supports+1) to catch up to the BO which is by default ahead either way. Instead of grinding 6~ sailors including a useless BO (assuming you don't have an SS/CV crew waiting for it). 

And I'm assuming you meant far too short of guidelines with an Eng BO. Scouts can have enough potential to serve as fine Premium Ship BOs if you're concerned about it. 

I'm just detailing what's faster. Your preference is your preference. If fastest was also the simplest then everyone would only grind one way.

  • Re : fastest or most efficient way to level a BB crew to 120?

    05. 29. 2012 02:48


Harry74

Originally Posted by MaskdBandit

 if you go two BOs you're always one sailor short for both grinds (your BO) by default, as well as the less slots you're using because you're on low level ships twice.


Well, going only one BO and rotating crew around makes you use that lower ships class for a longer time, maybe also twice as long as running with one BO through.

But after all I must say: I don't see a need for a second BO either if you only want to go down one BB/CV line. Get your full crew at the start and let them rotate around on any ships. As said use only ships of level matching your supporters. Be happy your BO and gunners run a bit ahead cause that means seeing shells and having more acceptable spreads on the ship's you are using.
You won't have that spread problems when making a second BO, but you'll have to spend money in that second BO just for beeing able to see shells landing and having guideline length.

I would only use a second BO if
- theres a second BB line for that nation and choosing those different lines
- you want to play a full set of FW or BW CV.

  • Re : fastest or most efficient way to level a BB crew to 120?

    05. 29. 2012 18:36


MaskdBandit

Originally Posted by Harry74

Originally Posted by MaskdBandit

 if you go two BOs you're always one sailor short for both grinds (your BO) by default, as well as the less slots you're using because you're on low level ships twice.


Well, going only one BO and rotating crew around makes you use that lower ships class for a longer time, maybe also twice as long as running with one BO through.

But after all I must say: I don't see a need for a second BO either if you only want to go down one BB/CV line. Get your full crew at the start and let them rotate around on any ships. As said use only ships of level matching your supporters. Be happy your BO and gunners run a bit ahead cause that means seeing shells and having more acceptable spreads on the ship's you are using.
You won't have that spread problems when making a second BO, but you'll have to spend money in that second BO just for beeing able to see shells landing and having guideline length.

I would only use a second BO if
- theres a second BB line for that nation and choosing those different lines
- you want to play a full set of FW or BW CV.


If you have premium the first 15~ levels it won't matter what ship you're in. Just put them on something that has a lot of slots (I myself use Moltke till lvl 15, then start again at say lvl 37-40. They can catch up to your BO even faster that way, if you're willing to buy a PCA). After that, say you're US, you get to Atlanta (lvling 5 + BO and Gunners) in really a couple of hours, where you can level everything through the first few levels of the game quickly. Basically, even if you're level 60 and your supports are somehow 40, that's a small smidge of all the experience you'll get over the course of your grind, so worrying that it takes an extra even fifty games on one ship isn't even palpable. 

However, if you think about it you can't say you're spending longer on the lower level ships because you'd still have to use that ship twice :P. And I assure you, it's very nice to always have above ship-level gunners ^.^ even just a few levels makes a noticable difference.

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