I my opinion cv's being harrassed about scouting or providing vision is flawed especially when it comes to using TB's or DB's to provide that sight. No matter what type of plane they are they cost credits to replace the ones that where shot down. DB and TB's have very little defense against Fighters and are slow enough for AA to shred them. CV drivers make "Their" game worth the effort by going after ships like all the rest. A low level FW CV doesn't get anywhere trying to chase down T4 fighters nor can they launch the volumes of planes needed to hold a constant vision field. CV drivers play the game for the same reason SS drivers to BB drivers play the game for fun not to be chaparones when people can't do the same task they expect of the CV'S themself. It's the ones who struggle at all that are complaining, change your tactics which is what the game is about anyways. Let the CV's get experiance in the manner they see fit and decide the fate of their own planes... Some do make bad choices but let them learn from them.. I used to launch 4-5 planes per pilot.. Now I launch em in 2's... This is a game and you aren't ment to win every single game. In the end we are all only human and overtime our play will evolve... 

Let's make a couple of things possibly a little more clear for some people and honestly throw out what the real problem is here.

1. A CV dramatically increases their EXP by having 30k attack.  Win or Lose...get that and you get "decent" EXP. Therefore it makes sense for a CV to work for that, rather than chase Ftrs.  As stated before even in a loss, 30k attack is better EXP than 0 attack in a win.

2. A CV 5-6 can clear the skies with his high level Ftrs and rack up 30K+ Creds in plane kills, win the battle and still won't make what a BB does in EXP with or without the attack.  The safe bet for a CV is work to secure the attack, then worry about the win. ( OH...and BBs will still be yelling for vision with clear skies).


**************I think the case is made for increasing EXP for CVs**************


3. It is virtually pointless to use T1 or 2 Ftrs in a GB.  It is also proves one is possibly mentally challenged when you do not carry a scout as a BB and or any FTRs as a CV.

4. BBs do and will completely bash a player as worthless when he is outmatched.  I have seen a low level CV get totally gang bashed by his team and he was trying to compete against a CV6 in a CV4 and below (including a CV1 get blasted about no vision against a 6)

5. Lastly I don't think you will ever get rid of CV bashing.  I can never launch a DB, fighter camp 2 out of the 3 CVs so that they never get planes in the air the entire game and get blamed for the loss, no recognition for helping win (the only BB6 in the game gets all that) getting DBd, and having no vision.  


MAJOR TIP FOR EVERYONE:  Turn the friggin plane AUTO returns off under F10 game settings.  This provides vision the longest.  Worried about number of planes....learn to manage them and call them back manually if you have to.  Worried about the cost to replace them....seriously...did you just say you are worried about cost of replacement planes???!!!!

Wait what this thread is still here?

BB's use scouts, but when your CV's let the other side fighter camp you, you cannot launch a scout. they'll be shot down fast. Seems a lot of CV players don't realize this. I constantly watch CV's send bombers into a wave of fighters that are coming and the bombers get chewed up. CV's need to get air superiority, once this happens then send bombers. Or send a wave of fighters with bombers. Your job is to sink AA boats, keep your BB's from being fighter camped. Towards the end of the battle then start bombing the other CV's and BB's.




Now tell me.... how to prevent you from beeing fighter camped when the CV´s are forced to scout?
The FPs can either be over the enemys ships where they get shot down by aa or they can keep the skies clear over your head.
If any CV tries to clear the skies he is told NOT to fight over the own lines.
and now don´t tell me to drag the FPs towards the enemy, if i do so i can not control the other squads the same time, they will get shot down in no time and you are blind again.

Here is another problem, people get thier BB6 / T-5 scouts, and park them in harbor and start up a new line of BB. Now if u play with your T-5 scout u should beable to slip it out over the enemy even if ftr camped, i can. and with a T-5 scout i dont need a cv to scout for me.

the real problem is that they park thier T-5 scout and start a new line, now how is that the cv's fault? it was your choice to play with a lower lvl scout not his.

My thoughts about this>

1. Theses people needs to relax, and let people play their cv as they want to play. Its their account, and is their own business.

2. Since to win requires team efforts true, but you are not going to win all games either if the cvs play bad or even if the cvs plays good.


I ve seen BB456 without scout and yet demanding for scouts! Yet i play cv, i may not be that good but who cares, i was asked to quit playing cv, is funny the guy who asked me that, he gets killed everytime i see him in 3 or 4 shoots in his bb4 bb5.

Let me remind this to thoses players, NF has been created for PERSONAL ENTERTAIMENT, this is not an active military services! If you have a problem with any CV player perfomance , if you dont have any intention to help the player to improve his perfomance, then DONT SAY ANYTHING. ALL that you are doing

is MAKING SDE LOSE COSTUMERS!! less costumers > less income> less income > you know the results.


CV bashing should be considered by GMs and TNF as Harrasments and punishable, this is a issue that is not really new but from the past.

Theses day there is populations problems with NFNA servers and yet, people who thinks they know it everything, all that they are doing is MORE HARM to the servers than GOOD!

Doesnt matter how they play, they are going to learn to improve, thats why competition has always been there.

Blaming Cvs for their loss? Why are they always looking for a excuse to cover their defeat? I would of blame BBs drivers for not playing properly their ships, not putting the right set up, not having enough armor on ships that are supposed to be armored, not paying attention to Planes and submarines. getting killed BY cas or lower tier, BBs that cant even aim, but guess what? I dont blame them, why? because im not expecting it to win it all, because sooner or later there is going to be a better team as enemy and beat us all. ACCEPT DEFEAT and move on! Some people has alot of issues taking this game so serious and so personal! If that player is bad, keep it to yourself, but bad influences will not help but harm the server. Remember that thoses "BAD PLAYERS" helps  PAYS TO PLAY to have fun, not to pay and be BASHED.


Again, this issue should be classified as HARRASMENT and needs to be punishable with BANS.

According to Scottirvine. All CV's should JUST scout.


He of course says this will rushing in his 2 gun guam and dying all the time.