I have not read this forum very carefully, and I am sure I have missed dozzens of rage threads about Italy, but here is another one regardless...

I count myself as a decent BB player, usually getting scores closer to 200k. Scores doesn't messure skill, and frankly, I don't care, that's not what this thread is about. Against almost every BB5 or bellow in this game, I know how to fight, I know what tactics to use, how much range they have, how their hangtime is, how their spread is. Even though I can get killed by them, I know why and I know what I did wrong or what they did good. Then the Italians came. They all have a very low max angle. They all have very good spread. They all have mediocre damage, but still not bad damage. This alone is enough for anyone and everyone to fear them.

If this is then combined wit a good submergance value (hull integrity), good turnrate, good speed and the smallest hitbox known to man, then you have the Italian BB4s. If the rest of Italy isn't, these things are deffinetly overpowered, to the extreme. I took the liberty of checking what ships killed me today in the 16 battles I played. I got killed 7 of these games, 5 times of these, Italian ships were involved. 4 times Italian BB4s were involved. They are impossible to fight! They have the same range as my monty, they have such a low max angle that their shells will allways hit, they are so small that they can, if they play good, dodge my shells 9 out of 10 times. Their setup gives them an advantage only the QV had before, that they can decide how the game is played. If they play defensive, then the enemy team will have to as well, because rushing these things is impossible. If they play offensive on the other hand, the enemy team will also have to defend, because as soon as they get in range, they have an advantage.

But let us now, for the sake of argument, say that we actually hit this Italian piece of ****. Let's say we even put a full salvo in the guy, in our Montana. What happens then? He runs back and repairs. Because, even a full salvo from a Monty wont kill them, because you will almost always hit the belt with a few shells. I have put all my 12 shells in Italian BB4s 5 times in total. 1 time that was enough to sink them, 3 times it got them down to yellow or orange, and 1 time (almost full belt hit ~30k dmg), it only got his SD down.

No ships in this games are immortal, but if any ships are close, it's the Italian BB4s.

So, make what you will out of this, I am sure everyone is already aware of the problem with the Italians, still, never hurts to rage, right? :)