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  • italian OP guns....

    01. 25. 2014 23:06


BigHarold
Please can you balance guns italian BB2-4 have 100% armor penetration and dmg with HE. They have mutch bigger penetration then nagato with angle 43 and 16.1 inch or yamato... I test it on King George V with 11.5 and Queen Victory with 10.5 on deck. QV, italian BB5, BB6, gernam 14,96 inch, BB4, BB5 (gernam) or UK lower then 16 inch, US ship BB4 and lower dont have chance penetrate this armor... but italian with 12 inch have 100% penetrate this armor. german have 11 inch with 40 angles and they dont have chance penetrate this armor and have 30 % of dmg per shell... I think its little unbalanced and unfair.... I dont test soviet and france ships but I think it was similar like japanes or US navy... can you look on it?

 

  • Re : italian OP guns....

    01. 28. 2014 03:48


ForcedPlayer

bigharold, you are exagerrating too much. Like I said. Full salvo from my caio only did 10k+ damage on L1 at max angle. 

  • Re : italian OP guns....

    01. 28. 2014 07:44


BigHarold

Originally Posted by phantom3553

LOL, yeah right epic penetration you said? I should have already hunted AW UK ships with my ebb using 12"k10s...

I only get 10k with HE shells hitting an AW QV and 15k with AP...  


yeah but QV with 18" give you only 1-3K dmg with HE and 45-60K dmg by AP...yes its 100% penetration... you give 15 with AP only because you have AP bonus dmg

Italians dont give 0 dmg like others... I think that those 10K+ dmg to you to confirm it and not refute. Because other nations with 30 degrees gives only 1-2 K dmg and they have mutch bigger caliber

  • Re : italian OP guns....

    01. 28. 2014 07:52


Ruza_CZ

Originally Posted by ForcedPlayer

bigharold, you are exagerrating too much. Like I said. Full salvo from my caio only did 10k+ damage on L1 at max angle. 

No he Didnot, when I fire from All uk 15' at 30deg i and got deck dit a reci ve from 0- 3k from all 8 shells so compare this with your "only" 10k+.

I fro what i knowe italian 15' ale "totaly differnet form " UK 15 MK1 L42. (Italian was licecene manufacture fom UK).

S dont understant why Italian have graeter demage especially for same tier ship. (BB3 vs BB3). And same gun caliber and rather same gun level.

  • Re : italian OP guns....

    01. 28. 2014 08:51


BigHarold

Originally Posted by Ruza_CZ

Originally Posted by ForcedPlayer

bigharold, you are exagerrating too much. Like I said. Full salvo from my caio only did 10k+ damage on L1 at max angle. 

No he Didnot, when I fire from All uk 15' at 30deg i and got deck dit a reci ve from 0- 3k from all 8 shells so compare this with your "only" 10k+.

I fro what i knowe italian 15' ale "totaly differnet form " UK 15 MK1 L42. (Italian was licecene manufacture fom UK).

S dont understant why Italian have graeter demage especially for same tier ship. (BB3 vs BB3). And same gun caliber and rather same gun level.

they dont have same caliber their calliber is 12 inch

  • Re : italian OP guns....

    01. 28. 2014 09:00


ForcedPlayer

Mr Ruza I don't understand what you saying. 

  • Re : italian OP guns....

    01. 28. 2014 09:06


BigHarold

Originally Posted by ForcedPlayer

Mr Ruza I don't understand what you saying. 

go back to school :)

  • Re : italian OP guns....

    01. 28. 2014 09:08


Ruza_CZ

Originally Posted by ForcedPlayer

Mr Ruza I don't understand what you saying. 

I try it simple ITALIAN EQUAL GUNS ARE OVERPOVERED versus old nations.

 

Compare demage, weight of shell and reload of KM, RN, and RM and find wich BB3 15' guns wins.

some tip KM an RN not.

  • Re : italian OP guns....

    01. 28. 2014 12:28


ForcedPlayer

Originally Posted by BigHarold

Originally Posted by ForcedPlayer

Mr Ruza I don't understand what you saying. 

go back to school :)



Sorry I don't understand your "perfect" english. 

@Mr Ruza I am not sure about the 15" on RM. Mostly are small calibers guns.  

  • Re : italian OP guns....

    01. 28. 2014 13:13


Kogard

It had been known for some time RM HE has better penetration ability than other nations even if they have lower HE dmg... The OP part are "lower angle and faster reload".

 

And RM HE with 'higher' penetration ability, BigHarold suspected RM HE might act like AP shells (NF guide table), it can kill crews more frequent than other nations HE.

 

@ForcedPlayer...

As I understand it, HE from BB3 guns can not penetrate 10.5 inch UK deck armor. So you're not supposed to get 10k when Caio shooting AW L1. U should get 0-3k(hitting belt) like others.

 

 

 

  • Re : italian OP guns....

    01. 28. 2014 13:53


BigHarold

Originally Posted by Kogard


yes. these guns realy need balance...

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