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  • Kaiser 2015 patch

    01. 21. 2015 22:12


richardphat

Speak now, whether you feel it has been actually nerfed/buff .

As the author of the ship change, I want to know if you're having euphoria or nightmare when playing this ship post patch.

 

  • Re : Kaiser 2015 patch

    01. 31. 2015 04:43


EricIdle

Originally Posted by SzKuDi
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If you propose upping average Kaiser damage to around 50k (UP41 or even QV), you clearly have no idea of balancing.

  • Re : Kaiser 2015 patch

    01. 31. 2015 05:30


SzKuDi

Of course i don't. :P
But somehow i don't remember posting anything about not touching other stuff to make it all stay balanced.
Of course it all should be done and need some work.
And yes I wrote ~50K, I haven't made yet any calctulations nor testing of how would it impact balance, if it makes you feel better lets say ~47-50k with a chance of tweeking QV and UP41 a bit, keeping in mind that Nebraska is close as well ...


Its just an idea of buffing it a bit because 44296 average is a little low for 100% hit salvos on a BB6, it's 9k less than Nebraska, 16k less than P24, 14k less than Amagi, 20k+ less than Charlemagne, 7k less than QV and 6k less than UP41.
Also only 7 out of 17 salvos from Kaiser did more than 45k dmg which leaves 60% of them stay between 34k-45k.
My previous post was just to let you compare these numbers and maybe consider that Kaiser's damage got nerfed too much.

  • Re : Kaiser 2015 patch

    01. 31. 2015 20:24


richardphat

It's a good buff compared to what it used to do, I remember landing  30k full shots.

  • Re : Kaiser 2015 patch

    02. 01. 2015 05:46


joris92

Richard, can you have a look at what I wrote in EBB - January 2015 topic about the P24. I think it's overpowered, but no one of the test team reacted to it. 
Thanks in advance. 

  • Re : Kaiser 2015 patch

    02. 01. 2015 09:51


richardphat

It's been already on the to do list.

Fact is, it doesn't have an almost equal range. P24 just flat out, have more range than kaiser.

  • Re : Kaiser 2015 patch

    02. 01. 2015 12:36


joris92

Originally Posted by richardphat

It's been already on the to do list.

Fact is, it doesn't have an almost equal range. P24 just flat out, have more range than kaiser.



Okay thanks Richard

  • Re : Kaiser 2015 patch

    02. 15. 2015 12:38


CLTwolverine

I've spent years working to get up to a Kaiser and this just disheartens me more. I know KM damage has always been worthless and made the nation severly limited vs everyone else but I was holding out hope that Kaiser would finally be a ship that could hold its own vs other nations BB6's. It doesn't matter if you have 1/100 millimeter range advantage if you cause 20% less damage per hit than every other nation and have no where near the survivability.

  • Re : Kaiser 2015 patch

    02. 15. 2015 21:36


joris92

Originally Posted by CLTwolverine

I've spent years working to get up to a Kaiser and this just disheartens me more. I know KM damage has always been worthless and made the nation severly limited vs everyone else but I was holding out hope that Kaiser would finally be a ship that could hold its own vs other nations BB6's. It doesn't matter if you have 1/100 millimeter range advantage if you cause 20% less damage per hit than every other nation and have no where near the survivability.



Kaiser is fine the way it is now. Keep playing more with her till you get it ;) Don't look at the SN6, because her range will be nerfed soon (caused by a bug that she has now the same range as Kaiser). 

Good luck.

P.S.: The H44 should also have been a great ship. It's one of the best ships in this game. For me it is the best ship there is.

  • Re : Kaiser 2015 patch

    02. 18. 2015 16:21


CLTwolverine

H44 is solid... but the range advantage isn't large enough (especially in the dynamic GB environment) to make up for the horrible shell damage and hull strength.

It can take me multiple salvos just to start damaging other nations BB's while I"m cripped with 1 or 2 salvos. Super frustrating. 

  • Re : Kaiser 2015 patch

    02. 18. 2015 22:17


joris92

Originally Posted by CLTwolverine

H44 is solid... but the range advantage isn't large enough (especially in the dynamic GB environment) to make up for the horrible shell damage and hull strength.

It can take me multiple salvos just to start damaging other nations BB's while I"m cripped with 1 or 2 salvos. Super frustrating. 



When you are playing a at level H44 it is indeed hard, but the higher you level the better your spread gets. With the increased consistency it does very decent damage. By slingshotting your shells, no other BB12345 and some 6s can hit you. 

The point of the H44, actually with any ship, is to get not hit, but with KM it is especially important to use the range it got. I need around 12 shells to sink an L2, that's only 1.5 slingshot at max range... The fat lady even runs at 39 knt, which means that she can outrun or equals most ships in this game.

I haven't even mentioned what you can do with the T-slots to make it better. 

A little tip:
When the battle begins start with line fighting immediatly, try to take out as soon as many ships as you can. Don't wait for the perfect moment. When you get rushed by multiple ships it is indeed not a Montana, just stay aggresive, but don't let them hit you. 

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