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discus for balance in the bb all nations
02. 23. 2015 03:32
Pernambucano
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Hello all players ..
I see last month some pach from sd enternet and see they make some bad chances in the game
1. KM BB'S cell damage 1000 SN 2600 ,JPN 1800 ,UK SAME MN SAME
2 KM BB'S MAX Engine Speed 37 and other 42 knot (terminador,shinano ....)
3. KM BB ARMOR like paper .
Which programmer make this balance he need puliger for smart ideas
All time change the stats from ships ,guns , sailors.
why dont leave all ship with same detals?
Sory for my english but i am not american
I thinking will leave from this game soon.
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Re : discus for balance in the bb all nations
03. 01. 2015 18:37
SSquadleader
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Originally Posted by SSquadleader
It is easy to count what nation BB6 are used most in HT of HA or what nation ships that are used in fleet battles. Those are likely to be the more powerful ships. Does anyone have any statistics (or estimates)?
I was curious and watched the BS vs RA HT video of the RN harbour. I counted that at least 70% of BS HT bbs were SN P24 and P25. What has changed in NF? I thought that Kasier and QV were the mostly used ships in HT in HA due to its range and armor, respectively. I would think BS (with the most number of test team members) might know the details. Therefore, I am re-posting in this thread to get some "inside" insights or answers.
On an unrelated topic, it will also be interesting to see if the result will be the same if BS attacks SN harbor (that would get RA to defend more seriously and with the corner advantage).
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Re : discus for balance in the bb all nations
03. 01. 2015 18:49
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Re : discus for balance in the bb all nations
03. 01. 2015 18:51
jacopo
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BS....paving the way, and setting the standard for harbor assaults. truthfully tho, the sn ebb and bb six are the true line fighters. that being said, they lack speed and turning force. also have the forty five degree guns, and a really fat ass. they make up for this with their range which is second best, and their hitting power. they still need a few more tweaks as their damage is still spikey. i propose a larger shell. anyone who attacks with queen vics is either braindead or is from kt...as for the kaiser, it is still a great ship, but it like every ship has its weaknesses...
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Re : discus for balance in the bb all nations
03. 01. 2015 19:02
SSquadleader
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Originally Posted by Rehor
But when I watched the old video posted by farazelleth in another post (HT against KM harbor?), this was not the case. There were a mix of QV, Nebby, and Kasier of about equal portion. So, there has been a huge change.
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Re : discus for balance in the bb all nations
03. 01. 2015 19:07
jacopo
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Originally Posted by SSquadleader
Originally Posted by Rehor
But when I watched the old video posted by farazelleth in another post (HT against KM harbor?), this was not the case. There were a mix of QV, Nebby, and Kasier of about equal portion. So, there has been a huge change.
not all change is bad.....the changes thay were made have been overdue for the past four years. the only reason it toook four years to implement the changes was due to the corruption of mr. vick. the end tier ships are fixed now, with the exception of a single ebb and a minor tweak needed to sn.
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Re : discus for balance in the bb all nations
03. 01. 2015 19:10
Rehor
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Originally Posted by jacopo
not all change is bad.....the changes thay were made have been overdue for the past four years. the only reason it toook four years to implement the changes was due to the corruption of mr. vick. the end tier ships are fixed now, with the exception of a single ebb and a minor tweak needed to sn.
Concerning the fixes . . . surely it's not quite that simple.
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Re : discus for balance in the bb all nations
03. 01. 2015 19:12
SSquadleader
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Originally Posted by jacopo
BS....paving the way, and setting the standard for harbor assaults. truthfully tho, the sn ebb and bb six are the true line fighters. that being said, they lack speed and turning force. also have the forty five degree guns, and a really fat ass. they make up for this with their range which is second best, and their hitting power. they still need a few more tweaks as their damage is still spikey. i propose a larger shell. anyone who attacks with queen vics is either braindead or is from kt...as for the kaiser, it is still a great ship, but it like every ship has its weaknesses...
Thanks for the information. Are SN bb6 and ebb6 the new standards for HA? After the patch, QV and Nebby became useless? Is P24 gun better than Kaiser gun? The range difference is very small but the damage power is much better. The turning force diference is also so small. SN also has powerful engies. When the turning force is in the 17-18 range, it is already so slow. I would say Amagi has about the same "fat ass" as P24.
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Re : discus for balance in the bb all nations
03. 01. 2015 19:24
jacopo
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Originally Posted by SSquadleader
Originally Posted by jacopo
BS....paving the way, and setting the standard for harbor assaults. truthfully tho, the sn ebb and bb six are the true line fighters. that being said, they lack speed and turning force. also have the forty five degree guns, and a really fat ass. they make up for this with their range which is second best, and their hitting power. they still need a few more tweaks as their damage is still spikey. i propose a larger shell. anyone who attacks with queen vics is either braindead or is from kt...as for the kaiser, it is still a great ship, but it like every ship has its weaknesses...
Thanks for the information. Are SN bb6 and ebb6 the new standards for HA? After the patch, QV and Nebby became useless? Is P24 gun better than Kaiser gun? The range difference is very small but the damage power is much better. The turning force diference is also so small. SN also has powerful engies. When the turning force is in the 17-18 range, it is already so slow. I would say Amagi has about the same "fat ass" as P24.
qv and nebby are far from useless. the sn bb six also outdamages the kaiser based on its gun angle....think about it....a shell fired at you from a forty five degree angle is and should hit a helluva lot harder than one fired from a forty degree angle. with respect to that, when it comes to balancing anything in this game, one thing that cannot be stressed enough is you cannot buff/nerf something without nerfing/buffing it somewhere else. the delicate touch applied here is due to 1 man on the test team, and he has successfully justified the changes. there is no such thing as a single nation (UK) that triumphs over everyone elses stuff anymore. the changes to the nebby, were actually bug fixes that have been overdue since the ship was released. also, please keep in mind that this is an MMO, and in order to keep things fresh, change is needed. have a look at the most popular MMO in the world, WoW, it alters its entire game at every expansion. this keeps things fresh and exciting, and prevents the game from experiencing the doldrums that a game like NF has been forced to endure due to the likes of the former head moderator...
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Re : discus for balance in the bb all nations
03. 01. 2015 19:33
SSquadleader
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Oh, I am not against any changes. I was looking for information on the best ships to use for HA. HA seems to be the end game attraction.
Again, thanks for the information. I will switch my efforts from leveling my KM and US crew to SN bb crew because the ships used in HA will be SN bb.
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Re : discus for balance in the bb all nations
03. 01. 2015 19:39
jacopo
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Originally Posted by SSquadleader
Oh, I am not against any changes. I was looking for information on the best ships to use for HA. HA seems to be the end game attraction.
Again, thanks for the information. I will switch my efforts from leveling my KM and US crew to SN bb crew because the ships used in HA will be SN bb.
good man!
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