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  • Should I buy Tatsuda or stay with Fubuki?

    03. 01. 2012 13:27


JuninhoAG
Should I buy the level 25 Japanese Tatsuda or should I stay with my Fubuki and not wasting 80k credits on the Tatsuda?
The Tatsuda doesn't look so good for battles in my opinion so what are your suggestions?  

 

  • Re : Should I buy Tatsuda or stay with Fubuki?

    03. 02. 2012 04:23


Sanitarium
The reason i mentioned the second nation is in order to help your self in the leveling of the new sailors.

The problem you are facing as an IJN player is that you can not have a ship which will help you with the training of the new sailors. Most people play aa ships (in gb) with high level aa gunners and the rest support / pilots (on support slots). The reason behind this is the easist and most effective way to level up. You will get lots of credits from shooting down aircrafts and the exp is pretty good. As IJN you face the problem of the DP gunners which you will have to keep them as arm sailors until late. You could use torpedo boats and try to hunt SS with Hedgehogs (hedgehogs are pretty expensive though and it is not worth it unless you are buying the premium ones), also the exp from this weapons is shared between everyone, so you will be getting lower exp. Anyway this is just a suggestion you could follow or you could just forget about it.

Regarding the +12 sailors you are trying to get now it will cost you a lot of points until you find a +12 one. It is difficult to get them with the current system of rolling and you have to be carefull not to pass one by accident. +11 sailors are not bad either if you decide to go with them. But if you do go with +11 try to find some 11/11 rep/eng or similar.

Try not to waste all of your points. You will need them when you will be trading. I am not sure how many points/credits you need to have in order to be able to trade. Check it out with someone else. Also if you ask around some players i am sure you will be able to find some nice people that will be willing to help you out with that. If not you could lvl some sailors up to lvl 12 and sell them. +12 engs go for 300k easy as neutrals. Same applies for the rest of sailors if they are +12. Gunners with +12/+11 Acc/Rel could be sold for up to 1mil maybe more.

Have fun playing

  • Re : Should I buy Tatsuda or stay with Fubuki?

    03. 02. 2012 05:21


JuninhoAG
Originally Posted by Sanitarium

The reason i mentioned the second nation is in order to help your self in the leveling of the new sailors.

The problem you are facing as an IJN player is that you can not have a ship which will help you with the training of the new sailors. Most people play aa ships (in gb) with high level aa gunners and the rest support / pilots (on support slots). The reason behind this is the easist and most effective way to level up. You will get lots of credits from shooting down aircrafts and the exp is pretty good. As IJN you face the problem of the DP gunners which you will have to keep them as arm sailors until late. You could use torpedo boats and try to hunt SS with Hedgehogs (hedgehogs are pretty expensive though and it is not worth it unless you are buying the premium ones), also the exp from this weapons is shared between everyone, so you will be getting lower exp. Anyway this is just a suggestion you could follow or you could just forget about it.

Regarding the +12 sailors you are trying to get now it will cost you a lot of points until you find a +12 one. It is difficult to get them with the current system of rolling and you have to be carefull not to pass one by accident. +11 sailors are not bad either if you decide to go with them. But if you do go with +11 try to find some 11/11 rep/eng or similar.

Try not to waste all of your points. You will need them when you will be trading. I am not sure how many points/credits you need to have in order to be able to trade. Check it out with someone else. Also if you ask around some players i am sure you will be able to find some nice people that will be willing to help you out with that. If not you could lvl some sailors up to lvl 12 and sell them. +12 engs go for 300k easy as neutrals. Same applies for the rest of sailors if they are +12. Gunners with +12/+11 Acc/Rel could be sold for up to 1mil maybe more.

Have fun playing


If I need new sailors for my Japanese BB (that hopefully I'll get there) then I don't need to choose a second nation,do I? Because I can't combine KM Sailors and IJN Sailors on a ship.

Okay I'll keep trying to get a +12 sailor.

Wow if I get lucky,I will be able to get rich by selling those kind of sailors. :P
Thanks. :)

  • Re : Should I buy Tatsuda or stay with Fubuki?

    03. 02. 2012 05:37


Sanitarium
As far as the second nation as i said it is up to you. As already mentioned the only reason i mentioned the second nation is for you to lvl up easier and faster. If you have support sailors that are not the same lvl this will create problems for you later on. For example if you combine a lvl 50 eng with 3 lvl 80 ones then firtsly your overheat will drop down a lot and secondly you will a have a problem with the exp they will be gaining. as mentioned earlier is best if you have all your sailors on a plus/minus of 8 lvl from the lvl of your ship.

You can combine ijn and km sailors on a IJN boat but they will nto be able to work any kind of guns nor would they add as much of SD (soft defence) as a IJN sailor would do.

You dont have to start a new nation if you dont want to. However if you start now (you must be around lvl 30 if i am correct) leveling up the new sailors until they reach the lvl of your existing support sailors your BO will be around 10 lvls higher from what he is now. Thus creating you a problem with the exp gain as your bo will be in a ca with support sailors of dd lvl.

Anyhow, you can do what you believe is best for you. After all its just a game so enjoy it. :)

  • Re : Should I buy Tatsuda or stay with Fubuki?

    03. 02. 2012 06:01


JuninhoAG
Originally Posted by Sanitarium

As far as the second nation as i said it is up to you. As already mentioned the only reason i mentioned the second nation is for you to lvl up easier and faster. If you have support sailors that are not the same lvl this will create problems for you later on. For example if you combine a lvl 50 eng with 3 lvl 80 ones then firtsly your overheat will drop down a lot and secondly you will a have a problem with the exp they will be gaining. as mentioned earlier is best if you have all your sailors on a plus/minus of 8 lvl from the lvl of your ship.

You can combine ijn and km sailors on a IJN boat but they will nto be able to work any kind of guns nor would they add as much of SD (soft defence) as a IJN sailor would do.

You dont have to start a new nation if you dont want to. However if you start now (you must be around lvl 30 if i am correct) leveling up the new sailors until they reach the lvl of your existing support sailors your BO will be around 10 lvls higher from what he is now. Thus creating you a problem with the exp gain as your bo will be in a ca with support sailors of dd lvl.

Anyhow, you can do what you believe is best for you. After all its just a game so enjoy it. :)


I can get a new Operator which I will play with by trading a level 1 Operator from another account to my main account and then buying a FF in the Neutral ship yard and when the Support Sailors and the operator will get to level 12 I will level them up with the cheapest Japanese ship there is till they get to about level 18 and then I'll put them on my Tatsuda while my original sailors will be resting in my sailors list.
I think it's smart to do so,what do you think?

  • Re : Should I buy Tatsuda or stay with Fubuki?

    03. 02. 2012 06:15


Sanitarium
go for it. Just keep in mind you will need to rotate your sailors so they stay round about the same level. You could however raise a second bo so when your sailors drob behind the main BO you can level them up with the second one. They will eventually fall behind from your bo and gunners because bo and gunners gain 120% exp whereas the rest of the sailors only get 100% exp.

Anyway am leaving from work now :P so enjoy the game and have fun.

  • Re : Should I buy Tatsuda or stay with Fubuki?

    03. 02. 2012 06:25


JuninhoAG
Originally Posted by Sanitarium

go for it. Just keep in mind you will need to rotate your sailors so they stay round about the same level. You could however raise a second bo so when your sailors drob behind the main BO you can level them up with the second one. They will eventually fall behind from your bo and gunners because bo and gunners gain 120% exp whereas the rest of the sailors only get 100% exp.

Anyway am leaving from work now :P so enjoy the game and have fun.


I won't use my main BO,I will only use my second BO for my new Support Sailors I will create.

Or listen,because of the fact that I need 2 more Repair sailors and 4 more Engine sailors,I won't use an Operator,I will just put an Engine sailor at the position of the operator so I could level the Engineers and Repairers I need, faster,what do you think?

And thanks for all of your help! I appreciate it! :)

  • Re : Should I buy Tatsuda or stay with Fubuki?

    03. 02. 2012 06:56


Sanitarium
you could do that obviously. And it will help you to get all sailors at the same level fast. Donot forget though to class them as soon as possible since you dont want to loose any ability points.

Second thing: As i said earlier your support will eventually fall behind from your bo. For example when your bo is lvl 70 your support they will be around level 60+. This will happen regardless of what you do because bo gets 120% exp per game and supports 100% per game. Easy sollution a second bo or a second nation only for training purposes. Or you could get the PBB (premium bb) or PCA and put one of your support on their as BO. This is only allowed with premium and event ships. However the IJN PBB sucks big time at lvl and the CA is okish. However you can not use aa for training as i already mentioned you need to keep your future dp guns classed as arm. sailors until late.

Good luck with the game and have fun.

P.S. any time bro if you need any further info just p.m.

  • Re : Should I buy Tatsuda or stay with Fubuki?

    03. 02. 2012 07:16


JuninhoAG
Originally Posted by Sanitarium

you could do that obviously. And it will help you to get all sailors at the same level fast. Donot forget though to class them as soon as possible since you dont want to loose any ability points.

Second thing: As i said earlier your support will eventually fall behind from your bo. For example when your bo is lvl 70 your support they will be around level 60+. This will happen regardless of what you do because bo gets 120% exp per game and supports 100% per game. Easy sollution a second bo or a second nation only for training purposes. Or you could get the PBB (premium bb) or PCA and put one of your support on their as BO. This is only allowed with premium and event ships. However the IJN PBB sucks big time at lvl and the CA is okish. However you can not use aa for training as i already mentioned you need to keep your future dp guns classed as arm. sailors until late.

Good luck with the game and have fun.

P.S. any time bro if you need any further info just p.m.


Every one will be approximately at the same level with the same EXP because every time I will replace the crew which is on the ship and off the ship,I need 4 Engineers and 2 Repairers,so it's 6 sailors,a Frigate contains 4 slots,so I will always replace the sailors when they will have more exp than the others and I will continue so,I hope you understood what I meant.

  • Re : Should I buy Tatsuda or stay with Fubuki?

    03. 02. 2012 13:02


hiroito
So, to point out a few things:
1-you will need to either rotate or get another nation to level up your Support sailors faster. KM is a pretty awesome nation with the Emdem, and MN is really good too because they have a clone of the emdem, The difference lays in range and damage, MN has better range, KM has better damage.

2- If you are in Kaiser and need some credits or points you can Message me if I am logged in. I think you will need at least 50k Credits and 50K points to be able to trade.

3- If you have some good torpedo man,don't throw them away, save them for later since IJN has the best SS against BBs and CVs (8 front torps of death at SS4 stage LoL). But worry about this later on.

if you have any questions regarding KM you can ask me or visit the forums. And welcome to IJN.

  • Re : Should I buy Tatsuda or stay with Fubuki?

    03. 02. 2012 13:47


vadarrog
Originally Posted by vadarrog

I would stay in fubuki. I was in same position as you about 2 weeks ago. The fubuki is better because its a smaller target. I had better expierences in fubuki because lots of time i could manage to survive even at 200 or less DP because I'm a smaller target. But tatsuda your just a block shot target. I played it one or two games that was it. I reccomend staying withe the fubuki. You'll get to the next ship much faster. By the way the Simakaze is the best. Especially with engies and lvl 50+ torpers. Torp wall ninja. Not as good askita in torp wall but that thing is a big target. I had lots of times where it was my simakaze and a kita and guess who survived. :P ME!!!!!.

1. I'm much faster
2. I turn faster
3. I'm a smaller target
4. It's harder to hit me in general

PS: DON'T KEEP YOUR SIDES FACED TOWARDS THE ENEMY FOR SO LONG OR YOU WILL DIE. EITHER FACE FORWARD AND CHARGE OR FACE THE OTHER WAY AND RETREAT ( normally while loading ) OR DIE. I normally charge half way to the enemy BB line and launch all my torps. I run off reload and do it again. By the time I'm reloading my third wave of torps my team is winning and charging the surviving ships. Also on the R slots mount hedge hogs because on the way to the enemy side you can protect subs by killing a few subs on the way there or one shot little DDs or CLs. hedgehogs are quite powerful. Fubuki also prepares you for simakaze gamestyle


A Moderator told me that buying a ship which is the closest level to your crew level gives more EXP,is that true?
I already bought a Tatsuda (before I saw your comment) so if buying a ship which is the closest level to your crew level doesn't effect the EXP you gain,I will sell my Tatsuda and buy a Fubuki again,but if it does effect the EXP,I will stay with the Tatsuda so I could get more exp from battles.

Well but I won't remain with the Simakaze till my crew will get to level 50...I will buy the Kuma when I will be able to,it is much better than Simakaze isn't it?
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If you are good at surviving and don't die and get 10k attack or lower you'll do better than being in Tatsuda or the same. You have a bigger chance of dying in Tatsuda. I made more money in Fubuki then Tatsuda because Fubuki as i said before is just better and it prepares you for Simakaze. Also Fubuki has 3 T slots. Tatsuda has only 2 T slots. Also you should try out the IJN SS later on when you have lvl 60+ engies ( At least 3 or more ) It will make your grind better. When your in a slow IJN ss1 with low OH. The overheat will be very noticeable. Many times you will feel like a boss in this thing because of its 6 front torps. One time a kai kou Type I rushed our side and i guess he didn't pay much attention to me but focused more on my friend ( USN SS2 ) So he was running away from my friend, caused a bit of havoc and killed about 2 BB's and 1 CL then for some reason he decided to show his side to me just in range of my torps. I Fired all 6 of my torps because he was going 35 knts and I wasn't very sure where he would go. Next thing you know 5 torps make contact ( I'm glad he was going 35 knts OH :D ) I was driving around yelling pwned for about 10 mins straight. I got about 10k exp and a nice amount of mney from that battle. In the IJN sub I think its prob the best ss1 because its 6 foward torps. It at least makes the grind fun unlike USN and KM at the sacrifice of speed. I highly recommend going IJN SS. Its very fun. At first you'll complain and think " What did I get my self into but other times you'll feel like a boss. engies and a lvl 50+ planes man. You dont have to wait for air refill in beginning. Pls consider going down IJN SS line.

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