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  • BRING BACK NF

    03. 12. 2012 16:55


ryanpace1

u know, its kinda starting to bother me. i remember how it used to be. there were never scam trade rooms, hh ships, fighter hoarding cvs, none of it. i remember back when subs were allowed in blitz, and before gb1 took over and now no other games will even get to start. what happend? now, i know tnf and sde have the best intentions for this game, but i think they need to change their priority a little bit.

 

  • Re : BRING BACK NF

    03. 12. 2012 21:32


OldTex

I have been playing more than 2 years. Yes there was a brief period when subs were in Blitz. Being SS1s, they were not very important.

  • Re : BRING BACK NF

    03. 12. 2012 22:35


mako089

Originally Posted by OldTex

I have been playing more than 2 years. Yes there was a brief period when subs were in Blitz. Being SS1s, they were not very important.

I remember logging right after the subs were patched in and I still can't remember it at all.  I remember going into Blitz and fooling around with DCs but there were no subs to sink.  I've gone back to screenshot logs and I can't find 1 with SS counts on the team display.  Eecan would use DCs on his shima to attack CAs but I can't at any moment think of one game where I fought a sub in Blitz.  I'm going to need to see a screenshot for proof because I really can't think of any point when this happened.

 

** EDIT

So I went through the old forum data.  I was wrong, there was nothing in the original patch about subs being limited to GB BUT checking the suggestions forum, within a month, there are posts asking for subs to be allowed into blitz.  None of those replies suggest that they were ever allowed, instead they talk about how over powered they COULD be if they were allowed.

Another suggestion that occurs the day after is a request to have an SS war mode in order to put balance back into the game.  The reason was that with subs only being able to play GB, CLs and DDs had moved into GB (Away from blitz to SS hunt) and that was hurting blitz as well as filling up GB with lower tier ships.

The Submarine patch date is Aug 6 2008.  You can refer to all the old forum data from around that time and chatter seems to indicate that subs were never in blitz originally.  So if they were allowed at any time after that, someone should be able to come up with patch notes that indicate it.

 

  • Re : BRING BACK NF

    03. 13. 2012 03:21


Lone_RANGER

Originally Posted by sora1412

SS was alllowed in Blitz for a brief moment when it was first introduced but it was taken away soon enough




THIS ... ima beta era player ... i remember the original ss1 introduction ...

until they introduced the ss2's .. and the bb's started in with OMG OP = NERF ...
and they were completely removed from game .. for years ... until RE-introduced


i'm still pissed cause i dismissed my SS bo and sonar/planes/torp crew way back when
they were removed ...

  • Re : BRING BACK NF

    03. 13. 2012 04:12


normpearii

I have yet to see one correct history in here.

 

You can't call, 70 minutes a "brief" period. Nor have subs ever been removed since their introduction. When they were first released the notes stated subs would be allowed in Normal Rooms, GBIs, GBIIs and Missions, they were patched incorrectly into blitz as well but where quickly removed within 70 minutes by an emergency patch.

Subs are only 2 years old, how could they have been removed for years.

  • Re : BRING BACK NF

    03. 13. 2012 04:23


mako089

Originally Posted by normpearii

 When they were first released the notes stated subs would be allowed in Normal Rooms, GBIs, GBIIs and Missions, they were patched incorrectly into blitz as well but where quickly removed within 70 minutes by an emergency patch.

Subs are only 2 years old, how could they have been removed for years.

The 70 minutes clears things up for me as it makes sense how I may have missed it.  Having said that, it's amazing that those 70 minutes have left such an impression on so many people.

  • Re : BRING BACK NF

    03. 13. 2012 04:57


Lone_RANGER

Originally Posted by normpearii

I have yet to see one correct history in here.

Subs are only 2 years old, how could they have been removed for years.


beta was 6-7 years ago ...
tier 1 and then tier 2 subs came out .. and then they were removed .. for years ...

and were only RE-introduced 2 years ago ... this is their SECOND release .. not first ..

  • Re : BRING BACK NF

    03. 13. 2012 05:08


mako089

Originally Posted by Lone_RANGER

Originally Posted by normpearii

I have yet to see one correct history in here.

Subs are only 2 years old, how could they have been removed for years.


beta was 6-7 years ago ...
tier 1 and then tier 2 subs came out .. and then they were removed .. for years ...

and were only RE-introduced 2 years ago ... this is their SECOND release .. not first ..


 

Well I was here too and I can't remember it but I'm willing to admit I was wrong.  So I've checked back into the update patches back to 2005.   I think such a major move would be logged as something as small as gun changes for Aganos were even mentioned.

So if you don't mind digging up the info for me....

  • Re : BRING BACK NF

    03. 13. 2012 05:10


Ewood

Originally Posted by ryanpace1

u know, its kinda starting to bother me. i remember how it used to be. there were never scam trade rooms, hh ships, fighter hoarding cvs, none of it. i remember back when subs were allowed in blitz, and before gb1 took over and now no other games will even get to start. what happend? now, i know tnf and sde have the best intentions for this game, but i think they need to change their priority a little bit.

I remember how it used to be when there were NO BB's, when being in a CA marked you out as being 'good' and when getting no attack meant you got red Xp.

A lot of the players I've seen in game who say they are 'Beta players' I have no recollection of, at all... 

  • Re : BRING BACK NF

    03. 13. 2012 05:39


CaptKing

Originally Posted by Lone_RANGER

Originally Posted by sora1412

SS was alllowed in Blitz for a brief moment when it was first introduced but it was taken away soon enough




THIS ... ima beta era player ... i remember the original ss1 introduction ...

until they introduced the ss2's .. and the bb's started in with OMG OP = NERF ...
and they were completely removed from game .. for years ... until RE-introduced


i'm still pissed cause i dismissed my SS bo and sonar/planes/torp crew way back when
they were removed ...




I have been around since retail,  not beta i know. I was TNF from 08-09/10 In 2008 Subs were not in the game,  because SDE hadn't and at that time COULDN'T impliment something under the ships plane of play.   This was asked to SDE at the Game Comp in California.   I like many were supprised when Subs were added to NF.  

  • Re : BRING BACK NF

    03. 13. 2012 14:34


cornandbeef

Originally Posted by Lone_RANGER

Originally Posted by normpearii

I have yet to see one correct history in here.

Subs are only 2 years old, how could they have been removed for years.


beta was 6-7 years ago ...
tier 1 and then tier 2 subs came out .. and then they were removed .. for years ...

and were only RE-introduced 2 years ago ... this is their SECOND release .. not first ..



That's not the beta I remember. Beta began in nov 2004, I joined in march 2005. There were fewer than 10 BBs when I started and NO subs. SDE at the time said they wouldn't ever add subs to the game.

So 7 years ago there were no subs.

I do remember that the simakaze was released-removed-released (in limited supply) due to crys of being overpowered.

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