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  • Montys range.

    01. 16. 2013 23:34


arahlala11

Montys range is shorter...bit annoying vs all bb5 range. T_T

 

  • Re : Montys range.

    01. 27. 2013 20:18


V2CxBongRipz

Originally Posted by GregoryV

monty is the only ship that can oneshot any ship. (for bb6 it requires average crits, but still attainable)

Hyuga?

  • Re : Montys range.

    01. 28. 2013 02:39


danita

Hyuga has about 6k lower maximum damage iirc and a spread that's worse though.

  • Re : Montys range.

    01. 30. 2013 02:12


JayJay17

The alsace does more damage per shell compared to the monty but the only reason the monty one shots mainly everything is cause of its 45 degrees and spread compared to the alsace

  • Re : Montys range.

    02. 27. 2013 13:50


L0TTERY

Originally Posted by JayJay17

The alsace does more damage per shell compared to the monty but the only reason the monty one shots mainly everything is cause of its 45 degrees and spread compared to the alsace



Monty has higher armour penetration value and tighter spread. Alsace is perfectly capable of one shotting if you can land all those shells if your spread doesn't decide to spaz out.

  • Re : Montys range.

    03. 29. 2013 17:08


Fairimear

Im using a 120 ebve crew on monty.
in gb it is a great ship.
BUT it is a losers ship.

it can't take part in a winning battle because everything in some bb4 outrange it in a chase.
So you are effectively not getting a part in a game your team has won fairly easy.
on adverage my score in games where my team wins fast is around 40k.

in close games with a braw between 2-3 bb at the end monty does ok.
In lossing games the monty is a beast.  if my teams on run. i can easy score 200k.
BUT that being said there are still bb that have ability to hit me at their max range when chassing me.  that i am only able to hit because im running.

thus the monty is a underdog ship. combined with it's larger size its a faiv for bombing.

So yes overal the monty is a fairly frustrating ship to play 80% of the time.  the other 20% you love it.

I would hesitate to give it more range. As i could see it getting a bit ott.
but i think with the RM/SN/KM all having a huge range advantage its time either those nations had a speed nerf or monty had a speed buff.
i dont think its right that a h44 can both range keep and keep distance on a monty.
Personally i think the montys gb speed should be put up to 44knt/s oh.
So it can take advantage of mistakes made by h44 ect. 

you can say. the monty has higher ap or dmg. or can 1 shot.  great i can 1 shot a bb3. because bb4/5 just stay out of range no matter what if they are not idiots. 

  • Re : Montys range.

    04. 26. 2013 20:02


jotabe

Originally Posted by Fairimear

Im using a 120 ebve crew on monty.
in gb it is a great ship.
BUT it is a losers ship.

it can't take part in a winning battle because everything in some bb4 outrange it in a chase.
So you are effectively not getting a part in a game your team has won fairly easy.
on adverage my score in games where my team wins fast is around 40k.

in close games with a braw between 2-3 bb at the end monty does ok.
In lossing games the monty is a beast.  if my teams on run. i can easy score 200k.
BUT that being said there are still bb that have ability to hit me at their max range when chassing me.  that i am only able to hit because im running.

thus the monty is a underdog ship. combined with it's larger size its a faiv for bombing.

So yes overal the monty is a fairly frustrating ship to play 80% of the time.  the other 20% you love it.

I would hesitate to give it more range. As i could see it getting a bit ott.
but i think with the RM/SN/KM all having a huge range advantage its time either those nations had a speed nerf or monty had a speed buff.
i dont think its right that a h44 can both range keep and keep distance on a monty.
Personally i think the montys gb speed should be put up to 44knt/s oh.
So it can take advantage of mistakes made by h44 ect. 

you can say. the monty has higher ap or dmg. or can 1 shot.  great i can 1 shot a bb3. because bb4/5 just stay out of range no matter what if they are not idiots. 

ill give u that Monty on a chase equals almost BB3 in range (maybe the lesser range BB4, maybe the most range BB3)

But in a "easy win" battle most of the times enemy team its fully blinded, besides all that it takes for monty to sink "anything" its 2 shots from their front turrets or 1 shot from the entire "Atomic" gunpack.

Also monty have a decent ressistance, its not a L2, but its way ahead from what a SY or H44 can take.

With good 110+ engys monty should run at 40 with plenty of OH time... this will allow the tactic of "getting in an out" (like its done with IOWA). it has a bigger sprite than Iowa/Missouri, but man how nice is that punch.

1 full Hit of Monty can leave a BB6 in "orange", thats a lot to say...

hangtime its an issue, but its not so hard to get used to it. BTW have anyone had the need of use AP anytime with monty?

  • Re : Montys range.

    04. 28. 2013 16:29


Arrgh

Originally Posted by jotabe

 BTW have anyone had the need of use AP anytime with monty?




A few times I have ran into extremely AWd QVs.

45 degrees 16" guns or not.. there is only so much armor they can pierce with HE.

  • Re : Montys range.

    04. 28. 2013 20:05


normpearii

Monty can't play offense?


You guys make me laugh.



Nose in slightly, land the front gun, turn, land the back gun, the enemy ship sinks.

Repeat on next guy.

Then one shot the BB4s and 3s.

GG 




It takes a little tweaking, but getting 42 knots of the VV is doable with all 3 guns. 

  • Re : Montys range.

    04. 29. 2013 03:37


danita

A 42 kt  3 gun VV is possible but only as a paperthin powerlevel ship. OH time, repair rate and possibly binds are (severely) reduced in comparison with a 40 kt VV.

  • Re : Montys range.

    04. 29. 2013 03:48


Fairimear

Originally Posted by normpearii

Monty can't play offense?


You guys make me laugh.



Nose in slightly, land the front gun, turn, land the back gun, the enemy ship sinks.

Repeat on next guy.

Then one shot the BB4s and 3s.

GG 




It takes a little tweaking, but getting 42 knots of the VV is doable with all 3 guns. 




OH im sorry did I miss explaining the fundimentals of Offense vs defence vs line fighting to you?
You see what you describe is a line fight.  And offensive game involves chassing the other team.  And deffensive requires running.  The monty is acceptable at linefights.  It requires patients but you can do it.  Deffensive the monty is king.    Offensive it's the begger in the gutter.    So the situation arrises that you can get good score out of monty.  but Only on games you lose.

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