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KM H44 more nerfed?, No !!! finally a solution !!!!
05. 08. 2012 11:18
Mezak76
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I read in a test server discussion that KM guns for H44 will possible change... for worst, or maybe I´m reading wrong.
I mean, read that will have lower angles, lower damage, more shell weight.
I post this to for all KM comunity to be warning, because maybe i´m understanding in a wrong way, or KM will not have the range advantage any more.
If there is anyone that can see this post and give us all some good news would be great.
here is the link.
https://fm.en.navyfield.com/Community/Forum/View.aspx?num=8764&searchtype=0&pagecount=0&searchvalue=&sort=5&category=C03&page1=1
EDIT:
After read all information available about this topic I decided to change the subject of this post, because it can generate some kind of alarm in KM players.
Thanks to Richard for all the effort and time that he is investing in solve the damage problems that H44 really have.
I hope to try the new guns in live server soon.
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Re : KM H44 more nerfed?, No !!! finally a solution !!!!
09. 18. 2012 08:57
Mezak76
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Hi people:
I read very carefully the posts made by hiroito, phantom3553, McTass and flaggelant.
I found in those posts very usefull explanations and tactics that can be aplied in H44 driving.
I was wrong in one important concept. Where and when a shell will hit has two factors: Range ans Hang time. I didn´t consider tht last one.
I have more thing to learn in the hard way to Kaiser.
Thanks to every one for use your time to post your knowledge here.
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Re : KM H44 more nerfed?, No !!! finally a solution !!!!
12. 11. 2012 14:59
Kogard
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First thx to richard for the work on hte consistency dmg fix.
Originally Posted by hiroito
You said...
I'm no pro at playing KM (Hell, my win rate is 49%), But I can tell you that the H44 is certainly an improvement over the H39, I am able to pull at least 70k damage on this ship per game and on a winning game I can do over 100k damage to the enemy, those numbers were a Great Game on the H39.
But...
TL;DR This ship HAS a range Advantage, learn to use it and learn to pick u your engagements. A Lonely Monty cruising the strip for some harlots? = Food. An Alsace trying to approach you? = Food. A Lion 2 with no teammates relativately close to his possition to support him? = Food.
If u play KM and consistently sunking these ships (as u refer them as food), u'll get over 150k EASY as ur normal game day... Hell, I play Bizzy and O2, now making 50k atk with its wide spread 14.6", if I manage to sunk one BB4/5 I can get 80k atk.
And just so u know, H44 is reffered as food to any other nations, either they play a CV, SS or BB. And it is common knowledge in BB players; overcoming KM range is easier than overcoming hardhitting shells BB.
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Re : KM H44 more nerfed?, No !!! finally a solution !!!!
12. 11. 2012 17:41
Sonlirain
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I'd like to point out that the wonderful spread H44 (and to a lesser extent H39) sports pretty much makes it impossible to stop any rush cince only 2-3 shells will hit at most. and after that you are in range.
And don't get me started on the range jumps it has.
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Re : KM H44 more nerfed?, No !!! finally a solution !!!!
12. 12. 2012 08:41
NIborGER
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Originally Posted by Sonlirain
I'd like to point out that the wonderful spread H44 (and to a lesser extent H39) sports pretty much makes it impossible to stop any rush cince only 2-3 shells will hit at most. and after that you are in range.
And don't get me started on the range jumps it has.
tbh H44 is a beast after the patch. Before it was already a good BB5. Requesting any sort of buff for it is hilarious. Maybe try to buff your skill.
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Re : KM H44 more nerfed?, No !!! finally a solution !!!!
12. 12. 2012 11:18
Mezak76
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Originally Posted by Sonlirain
I'd like to point out that the wonderful spread H44 (and to a lesser extent H39) sports pretty much makes it impossible to stop any rush cince only 2-3 shells will hit at most. and after that you are in range.
And don't get me started on the range jumps it has.
I agree with you, LVL100 guns in H44 spread remains bad with LVL 120 gunners.
Last Monday, during a GB I had a combat against a MN Alsace, long distance "dogfight" if you want to put a name. Our duel last more than 3 minutes.
During that time I placed at least 8 salvos in the area where the enemy was, but most of those salvos only 1 or 2 shells impacted over the enemy, and some times, no impact. The rest, right on the water.
While I was out of range of alsace guns was OK but during a manouver to avoid some DBs I was sunk with 2 .5 salvos.
Any other BB5 will win at salvo #4. I also played yesterday a BB&CA room, and usually made between 15 to 50% of my team DMG. Then I realize that H44 still have some issues to solve.
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Re : KM H44 more nerfed?, No !!! finally a solution !!!!
12. 12. 2012 17:40
Sonlirain
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Originally Posted by NIborGER
Originally Posted by Sonlirain
I'd like to point out that the wonderful spread H44 (and to a lesser extent H39) sports pretty much makes it impossible to stop any rush cince only 2-3 shells will hit at most. and after that you are in range.
And don't get me started on the range jumps it has.
tbh H44 is a beast after the patch. Before it was already a good BB5. Requesting any sort of buff for it is hilarious. Maybe try to buff your skill.
It was a terrible BB5 before the patch. Now it's just bad. I considered it to be a joke long before i started a KM crew. Now i regret this decision because i can't cockblock you by saying i don't have a KM line anymore. Meh... should have made a RN crew instead. Anyway any "skill" is essentially bottlenecked by the lousy spread that further highlights the low damage. You can blame it on lack of skill or intuition if you can't land a solid hit with montana or Stalingrad but H44 is a pure gamble with every salvo.
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Re : KM H44 more nerfed?, No !!! finally a solution !!!!
12. 12. 2012 19:25
Gundamx2
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Originally Posted by Sonlirain
It was a terrible BB5 before the patch.
Now it's just bad.
I considered it to be a joke long before i started a KM crew.
Now i regret this decision because i can't cockblock you by saying i don't have a KM line anymore.
Meh... should have made a RN crew instead.
Anyway any "skill" is essentially bottlenecked by the lousy spread that further highlights the low damage.
You can blame it on lack of skill or intuition if you can't land a solid hit with montana or Stalingrad but H44 is a pure gamble with every salvo.
did you seriously mean that H44 now with 100lv gun have a very bad spread? you probably should go back to H39 and see what real "bad spread" is or yea, you probably should sell your KM crew and start RN instead much more easier for you
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Re : KM H44 more nerfed?, No !!! finally a solution !!!!
12. 12. 2012 22:25
V2CxBongRipz
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Originally Posted by Sonlirain
Originally Posted by NIborGER
Originally Posted by Sonlirain
I'd like to point out that the wonderful spread H44 (and to a lesser extent H39) sports pretty much makes it impossible to stop any rush cince only 2-3 shells will hit at most. and after that you are in range.
And don't get me started on the range jumps it has.
tbh H44 is a beast after the patch. Before it was already a good BB5. Requesting any sort of buff for it is hilarious. Maybe try to buff your skill.
It was a terrible BB5 before the patch. Now it's just bad. I considered it to be a joke long before i started a KM crew. Now i regret this decision because i can't cockblock you by saying i don't have a KM line anymore. Meh... should have made a RN crew instead. Anyway any "skill" is essentially bottlenecked by the lousy spread that further highlights the low damage. You can blame it on lack of skill or intuition if you can't land a solid hit with montana or Stalingrad but H44 is a pure gamble with every salvo.
lol...
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Re : KM H44 more nerfed?, No !!! finally a solution !!!!
12. 13. 2012 03:21
Sonlirain
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Originally Posted by Gundamx2
They're equally crap unless you consider shells hitting a area more or less the size of 3 lions parked side by side to be anything close to accurate.
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Re : KM H44 more nerfed?, No !!! finally a solution !!!!
12. 13. 2012 04:35
Mezak76
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Originally Posted by Sonlirain
Originally Posted by Gundamx2
They're equally crap unless you consider shells hitting a area more or less the size of 3 lions parked side by side to be anything close to accurate.
I didn´t consider that point of view, but I think that you are right about the hitting area. I´m not sure about the follow statments, maybe all you ppl can help me: 1 - When a ship fires in parked position when battle begins the H44 LVL100 spread is one thing, but in movement the spread is so much greater. 2 - Maybe the hitting area in movement is a little bigger than the monster ship event 3 - I read in forums that BO only affect guidelines, but, It also affects Acurracy?. As I´m not an expert in game mechanics I want to be sure aobut this.
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