Faller no offense buddy but you clearly dont see my point or dont understand it that well.

UK AA sucks. Thats a fact. I was only stating that B65 IS better in some things than
another PBB. And Tatsuda wasnt even mentioned here. How can you just say that i said
Tatsuda is actually a good ship when i never said that.

My point with this topic faller is to point out that B65 is NOT as bad as people make it
out to be. Yes it has its flaws and such but as do all the other ships, not only PBB.

Also the part where i said that B65 isnt common because people are told it sucks was my
thoughts. And im pretty sure its true.

Tatsuda is a fun ship, what are you talking about? >.>

I've played in my B65 with lv 120 crew before, to be honest, the spread doesnt
improve very much after lv 80. AA is generally the same as well, as most IJN AAers
don't depend on the reload time...

"And just because you see many more of the other PBB doesnt mean B65 sucks. And if people
arent buying B65 because theyre told B65 sucks, then why do i see everytime that someone
begins about B65 1 or more people saying "B65 sucks" or "B65 is not worth buying"."

sure, so you're saying that Tatsuda is actually a good ship, that the fact that its not
common is because ppl say it sucks.

or better, then youre contradicting in ur paragraph. Why do you say next that UK AA sucks?
isnt that aswell beccause ppl say it sucks?

@ Faller

Seems u didnt quite understand it. The point wasnt that i made 114K. Like you said that
doesnt say anything. But if the B65 sucked so much as people make it out to be then i
would have a REALLY hard time getting that which i didnt.

And just because you see many more of the other PBB doesnt mean B65 sucks. And if people
arent buying B65 because theyre told B65 sucks, then why do i see everytime that someone
begins about B65 1 or more people saying "B65 sucks" or "B65 is not worth buying".

You said all PBB do things better than B65. Even the Dunkerque. I disagree on that one.
Yes at lvl Dunky sucks and will get better at higher lvls. But has Dunky usable AA? NO.
Unless your talking about the MN one. And even if its the MN one, the shells on their AA
do less damage than IJN AA thus an advantage for IJN. To me the B65 at lvl is only a
little bit worse than my AD when i was at lvl.

@ Pegleg

You seem to be only talking about 4 gold bar players. Thats not everyone. But i do see why
B65 has such a bad name. People apperantly dont like it which is fine. But to say that the
ships not worth buying is something thats just plain lying. ESPECIALLY for those who
havent even tried B65. For 3 years now i was told B65 sucked so i didnt bother with it.
Now that i do have a B65, i love it and see that people are wrong.

Like i said before, as with my H44 people said it sucked and that i would hate it.
Obviously the people saying that havent had a clue on H44 or just didnt like the ship
themselves because its a very good ship and i love it. Same goes for B65. Good ship, nice
playing style and definetly worth buying if you like Yamato playstyle.

@Asbuster
NavyField is like a marketplace, people vote with their time. If a ship is good people
play it a lot, if it sucks, they don't. The votes which count for the most in my opinion are
4-gold bar crews because those players are playing for fun and those players can play
pretty much any gun ship they want.

Just like with investing, the market is never wrong, however your portfolio may be - no
matter what analysis you put on it the market determines if you make or lose money.

So I don't think that it is controversial to claim that one rarely sees 4 gold bar B65 in
the room (especially in comparison with AD's, Sebas and Dunks). All we are trying to do
is analyze why people don't enjoy playing the B65.

asbuster, making once or twice a good attack over 100K means nothing. as much as you can
tell with that, is that ppl on the other side sucked. i can come with my Fuso loaded with
16'' and make 160K of dmg. Can i consider it a rly good ship, with the perfect setup? No,
actually the setup is very handicapped, but if the enemy let me get into range, they are
gonners

ppl already told 2 good arguments to call it a bad ship, not worth to spend money:

- you see much much more PBBs, even with goldbars, and even dunkerques, and that is not
because they are told B65 sucks. There's always one or two that actually manages to buy
it, and figures out they werent that good anyway

- what this PBB do, the other 3 will perform better, even the dunkerque, though that only
happens in later lvls. Heck, even the very few 4GB B65s i saw, they didnt do anything good

but if you're liking the ship the way it is, well be happy to use it. none forces you to
anything

I'm quit new joiner (8 months old), I play only 1 nation (IJN), before I purchase B65,
I survey forum and obviously were negatif feedback. But, when my BO reach lvl 65, I
compared all IJN BB3 and below stat, I found that B65 is comfordable to handle, put
aside those neg feedback, find below fair point to B65:

-more sailor slot (5+7 = BB4 slot, capable to prepare more sailor for high lvl BB)
-load more shell (PBB gun load 120 + 40 AP, never out of shell)
-Best AA gun space & gun quantity compare to BB1-3 + more AA shell
-good speed (currently running at 26/40 with 3 Eng [+12] lvl 89-91)
-capable to load 4/5 scout
-earlier to hit SD900 due to 7 support sailor slot
-better gun range compare to BB3, min difference by 15mm on screen.
-High angle gun (45 degree), more to defensive, and good for firing AP shell against
AW ship at 45 degree shot.
-higher ship loading capacity, which able to load far more higher lvl.

Well, I think it is worth the value to enjoy the game.

Cheers B65!

@ Elissis

I simply dont know why we dont see 4 gold bar B65s. Yes it might not suit most players but
its a bit extreme to call a ship "Not worth buying" just because of player preferences. As
for the ship itself, in my opinion if you like the Yamato you like the B65 simply because
they play exactly the same. Only difference is shipsize and range.

Also i wasnt bragging about me getting 114K attack. All i was saying is that if B65 indeed
sucked as much as people make it out to be then i couldnt do 114K attack.

@ Pegleg

Let me tell it this way. In my Dunky i have consistent bad spreads. VERY rarely i get a
decent spread. In my B65, my worst spread i ever had was about as good as my best spread
in my Dunky.

@Asbuster
And the spread on your Dunky with level 83 BVE +12 gunners would be comparable to
B65?

I see u reiterate that u have got 114k attack~
but that doesn't make a point, for sure.


I cannot see B65 has a good fighting edge (maybe AA?)
I think it has reasonable damage, but can't be compared with the insane damage of other IJN
ship class. its range is not impressive compare with the same class, too. (range dunk?
ok...range UK...no...range UK PBB!)
not to mention it is even not angle 30 gun =v=


B65 is not "worth buying" definitely not becoz of ppl saying it sux.
besides, as pegleg said, u can see no 4gold bars using B65.
(but 4 gold bars with other PBB, u didn't answer this point, did ya?)
did they buy it? or just didn't use it as it is not enjoyable?


anyway, it is good that u have find the B65 suits u and u think it is worth buying.
to the extend that...ship don't rulz, player rulz.