For all I care, the B65 gives me something reliable to grind in till BB3. No need to bleed
in the kongo and ise for a week.

Pegleg, yes we see B65 the least out of all PBB. Why is that? Because most people are told
it sucks and its not worth buying or they just dont like the playstyle. Ofcourse you see
less B65 with 4 gold bar BECAUSE it plays like the Yammy. At higher lvls theres no point
in going back to a ship that plays the same as your current one.

B65 has shorter range than what? Other PBB? I dont think so. I can range Dunkys pretty
easily and my spread isnt all that bad really. It might be tho because im using lvl 86 BVE
12/10 gunners but still. Yes i do agree the B65 has a rather large hitbox but it DOES have
the speed to get away. However usually when your hit by a BB4 your half dead already which
reduces your speed and thus unabling you to get into OH.

Line fighting in B65 is tough. Like all BB3 and below ships. I dont know about blinding
the enemy and then rushing but ive been able to get into range whilst the other team could
see fairly well really.

Alo one thing to note would be the other day when i played my B65. I managed to get 114K
attack. So if B65 was really not worth buying and that crappy i couldnt do that ammount
attack now can i?

First of all, to judge a ship is to look at the market. The market is to count the
average number of users of a given ship in an average game.

In an average GB2 game, you will see MANY AD with 4 gold bar crews. Several Sebas
and lots of Dunks. Occasionally you see an at-level B65 (i.e. recent buyer) and very
rarely do you see 4 gold bar B65.

Why is this:
a) 9 guns, 12.2 inch - shorter range and less punch means that the way to play b65
is to blind and then rush in -- well once you rush in and fire one salvo at that BB4, it
returns fire and you are a large hitbox with a fat tail. In a Yammy when you do that
you send 9 x 18inch bullets so maybe you sunk or crippled that BB4. In B65, you
just annoyed it. You don't really have the speed to run away. You also have a bad
spread.

b) AA - yes you get 6 x 4.7twins per side. 12 bullets of ok AA. Great for sniping
scouts but not great for ending waves of DB/TB or swarms of Fighters. If you sit back
and act as an AA ship then you just wasted a BB slot for your team. A Mogami/Myoko
is a far superior AA platform (15 bullets of 6.1"one-shot aa).

So you can't line-fight, you can't really rush that well, your AA is "meh", people think
you are a BB4/5 so you draw much more attention than the enemy should focus on a
BB1.5.

That being said, the B65 could be good training for someone who wants to learn
Yammy play style the hard-way. If you can pwn in a B65 you can really do well in a
Yammy.

I like it. Especially when leveling my pilots and using it as a BB escort for hi level
BBs, especially when shooting down those planes and shooting em rushing subs and ships.
Most guys that dont like the b65 are those that dont know how to use it.

Angus its not the money thats the problem. And NOTHING is perfect. Thats a fact.
And i dont know about B65 not faring as well as other PBBs but yesterday i managed to get
114K attack in my B65 and won the battle. I have yet to do that in both MN Dunky and RN
Dunky and Sevas.

Like i said in my previous post, B65 IS worth its money unlike some people say. No matter
how you look at it every PBB has its ups and downs.

It's the feeling that you've spent money on the ship that makes it so good.

Once you've spent far too much time and money, you just find every ship that isnt
perfect boring.

As far as on topic goes, the B65 was never a bad ship, it just doesnt fare as well as
the other PBBs and some BB2s in GB situations. In a BB room (capped at PPB+BB2),
the B65 is decent do to it's AA.

@Marchi

Yes i know that but what i have been hearing ingame and seeing on the NF forums is that
B65 is not worth buying. THAT is not true. Im sorry if this wasnt mentioned. The whole
point of this thread was to let people know B65 doesnt suck as much as people say. Its
quite a decent ship and worth the money if you ask me

@ All

I have all the PBB (AD, Sevas, UK Dunky, MN Dunky, B65) and in my opinion its like this
from best to worst in terms of playing style: AD, Sevas, B65, Dunky (both are equal). Like
i said in my main post its all about personal preference. Thats what some people dont seem
to understand. They see a ship in which someone happens to suck in it and say oh that ship
sucks. This doesnt happen all the time but i dont agree with the statement made by many
people out there: "B65 sucks and is not worth buying". Its not true and most people that
make this statement havent even touched a B65.

Its an awesome ship for rickrolling GBs, and ironically, u get much more XP in it than in
a yamato.

At high levels:

AD>Seva=Dunk> B65

but they perform like BB3s with high level crew.

I'd risk saying that B65 is a tad better than suckerque. I didn't have a chance to play
with the B65 though I have a dunk and I hate it.
I hate having only front guns, I hate the spread - last time i tried it with somewhat 105
lvl gunners the spread was awfully random, I'd need to give it a shot now with 111lvl
ones. The speed on it is OK, goes up to 42 or 44 knots, can't remember now.
Can't AA for crap as with every UK ship. Both ships have huge hitboxes compared to the
other two PBBs.

I'd say doria and seva are by far better

"ship suck" is term often used when ship of certain class is much worse than his
counterparts.
every ship can be used to some point,depending on crew lvl, skill of player and so on
but if u take all that and put in another ship of same class u will see that ship is
much harder to use and fairly worst.
so imo AD,Dunk and Seva are much easier to use and better ships thus u can use
term
B65 sucks !
don't see the point on ur thread sry

regards
Marchi