Put this in the "to-do" list, SN CV gunslot is OP..

My idea is that this nation has pretty good single barrled guns , so let the CV with many
R slots (CV3+) use those (that way you can appease the gun CV players with single 8" and
the OP
7", and whatever AA falls in that gun space amount), and CV12 (4 to a side) R
slot numbers use
~ 5" or 6" duals, perhaps even give the komsomolets gunspace for 6" trips to give it a
good defensive power.

Don't get us wrong nibor, some of your idea are good. There are some stuff that we really
needs to work hard.

I know you are worried about MN/SN PCV but please if u know a better solution please just
dont say "NO!" but what gun u would allow them to use instead.

I know yoou are worried about Daladier using 6inch trips but keep in mind they have rather
low range and dmg... a r-space of 91(so just 2 binds-> low ammo will solve that
cause i think compared to Hindenburg the 6.1inch duals are a bit too weak keeping lower
turning force and less bulge in mind.)

Okay looking at SN PCV again i think we will try the 6"/57 B-38 MK-17 Pattern 1938 first.

For SN CV2... hmm okay 3.9inch dual will be okay but with enough ammo.

For SN CVs in generall I want them a bit on top firepower wise since that "national trait"
of very good cv hull was set and i dont like unequal sized r-slots.

For cv6 please keep different number of r-slots in mind. 18 for US/UK and 12 for all other

Hmm well u are right about the sn cv4 thing. I added it yet

About the CV6 i would like to make them all equal in overall firepower if possible.
Furthermore the firepower (not range) should be CA1 like so the are superiour
firepowerwise towards all CV1-PCV.

CV6 rework:
US: 79 r-space
6"/47DP cal Mark 16 L dual
->range: 21.5; reload: 3.79; HE 108

UK: 80 r-space
6"/50 BL Mark XXI L dual
->range: 21.5; reload: 4.76; HE 180

IJN: 112 r-space
6.1"/60 Type 3 D trip
->range:22; reload:3.92; HE 126

KM: 121 r-space
5.9"/60 SK C/25 L trip
->range:22.9; reload:3.76; HE 106

MN: 115 r-space
6.1"/50 cal Model 1920 trip
->range: 22.7; reload:4.12; HE 152

SN: 122 r-space
6" B-38 MK-9 Pattern 1938 trip
->range: 23; reload:4.16; HE153

I gave all of them CL guns keeping the different number of r-slots in mind. This way they
all should have equal range, dmg , reload. KM and IJN are short on ammo cause these guns
block (if i remember correctly) and i belive the 6.1inch for SN too but since they should
have decent CV hulls they get +1bind. UK has slower reload but higher dmg/shell.

Source for range was this:
http://www.navyfield.com/board/view.asp?Num=79868&Sort=D07&Order=re_upday&PageSize=20&Page=1&SearchPart=title&SearchText=range&Ctg_1=&Ctg_2=&Ctg_3=
and this:
http://www.navyfield.com/board/view.asp?Num=193384&Sort=C07&Order=re_upday&PageSize=20&Page=1&Ctg_1=&Ctg_2=&Ctg_3=

Basing on that i would suggest for MN/SN cv following r-spaces to bring them in line:
CV1
MN: 33 r-sapce
3.9"/45 single
HH 2binds
->this is minimum so it can use the smalest gun
SM: -

>>>Seems fair enough IMO.

CV2
MN: 40 r-space or less (many r-slots!)
3.5" 1926 (non AA) dual 2binds
SN: 70 r-space
5.1"/50 1936 dual 3binds
-> bit more firepower then seydlitz (6 vs 4 slots)

>>>Seydlitz actually has 5 R Slots,at the very most,the Komsomolets should only
have enough Space for Lower level 3.9's,Bearn looks ok though.

CV3
MN:-
SN: 67 r-space
5.1"/50 1936 dual 2binds
->a bit more firepower then UK

>>>Maybe restrict the 5.1's to the inner R Slots? (AKA Making the Outer ones too
small to use them,at least the duals...)

CV4
MN: 77 r-space
5.1"/45 1932 dual 3-4binds
->since all cv4 use 5inch-6inch dual guns
3.5inch AA and 5.1inch dual AA
->since all cv4+ can use all important AA guns
SN: 73 r-space
5.1"/50 1936 dual 4binds
->small gun but huge number
Minizini
->since all cv4+ can use all important AA guns

>>>Same as above? (Joffre seems ok...)

CV5
MN: 79 r-space
6.1"/50 1920 dual 3binds+
->since all nations cv5 can use 6inch plus and with
->6.1inch MN is low-average
3.5inch AA and 5.1inch dual AA
->since all cv4+ can use all important AA guns
SN: 97 r-sapce
6"/57 1938 dual 2binds
-> more firepower by number
Minizini
->since all cv4+ can use all important AA guns

<<<Korstomitnova shouldn't have R Slots bigger than what it has now (Considering
that it has 7 R Slots per side,at the most,give it the same R Slot space as the Tsar)
(MN Seems ok here)

CV6:
MN: 79 r-space
6.1"/50 1920 with 3binds
->6inch dual should bring cv6 in line with other cv6
->for now but i would suggest a reworking of all cv6
->in general
3.5inch AA and 5.1inch dual AA
->since all cv4+ can use all important AA guns
SN: 78 r-space
6"/45 1892 dual 2binds
->again a bit more firepower then all other but again
->i think all cv6 should be reworked
Minizini
->since all cv4+ can use all important AA guns

>>>I Don't see anything out of whack here...

PCV
MN: 91 r-space
6inch trips 2binds
->to compensate for KM11inch single
3.5inch AA and 5.1inch dual AA
->since all cv4+ can use all important AA guns
SN: 139 r-space
8"/50 Pattern 1905 dual 2binds
->to have more firepower then Lexi, KM with 11single
->and MN PCV

>>>No,just no.

PS: Furthermore lower r-space to 50-60 for MN 5.1inch dual AA since they are just aa
guns
and even KM40 are mountable on dd1. so cv4-6 can use them (same as all other
nations can
mount all main a guns of cv4+) thier r-space requierment should be lowered.

>>>Can't really comment on the 5.1's (I can't see any MN CV using those for AA
though),but KM40's on the Z1? Yeah,like 52 Salvos will last you an entire battle (Not
even considering weight issues with the crew and guns)

This should probably be the lowest priority, there are more important things...

Out of all the originally CV5s, currently only Lexington and Europa can use decent size
guns. The Lexington gunslots were buffed to carry trip 8"/dual 8"/trip 6" in the ONF CV
patch and IMO this was the wrong way to go with this. Europa should have had its R slots
nerfed down to more a more sensible size for AA/DD guns.

GZ and Pre remod Akagi/Kaga have larger R slots but it is only 2 and IMO thats fine. We
need to move away from these noob gunship CV modes and put the focus back on aircraft.

Because over half cv including UK, are able to pack belt, deck to bounce low caliber guns.



The point of this 11", everyone makes a drama as if it was uber. Which is totally useless.
Anyone that carries, 6,75 or 5,9" will be much more effective. But again, they are good
technically on
paper or good for first minute, then you're out of the field.

The SN CV hull is already superior due to hitbox, submergence. We won't let any CV becomes
massive CA/CL
firepower.
Plus, CV3,4 both has 14 or 16 R slot, which is 7/8 per side. That's a great killing
DD,CL,CA,CV platform. Which is unlikely to Lexi,Graf Zepelin II, UK CV 3-4,IJN CV.



Yes, you can fix the cv r slot, including CV6. As long as SDE let you, and you provide a
solid reason why changing them.
But then, if you are willing to work on it, keep it mind that it will be your
responsibility on how it turns out on the live server.

For SN CV if i recall correctly they are meant to have superior CV hulls or correct me if
im
wrong.(http://www.navyfield.com/board/view.asp?Num=189393&Sort=C07&Order=re_upday&PageSize=20&Page=1&SearchPart=title&SearchText=sn&Ctg_1=&Ctg_2=&Ctg_3=)
About range I have to admit I dont know the range for the guns and mainly worked
accoring to caliber and i know it might not be the best way since 4inch guns can have more
dmg then 6inch but thats why i asked about your opinion and i want this to be discussed.

About 11inch: cvs arent battleships so massive amounts of ammo are secondary and 35salvos
are enough and with 6shells its high CA dmg(Dland P-Pro1!).
BTW who will pack a lot of belt/deck on cv? so bouncing and dodging is no reason IMO

@Mailman: are we allowed to change all cv to balance them gunspace wise since US/UK cv6
can mount equal guns as KM/IJN one but have 18 r-slots compared to 12. Furthermore (at
least for KM/IJN(/MN/SN) cv6 have less firepower then CV5/PCV. I would like to work on
them too.

Giving SN dual 6 for cv4 is completely overpowered.
We don't want a CV with massive firepower, when the current tier, does not benefit
it. Hell, 5,1'' is enough to turns it into a CA.
Plus, you're just giving the longest CV range out there, 16 R slot, best submergence,
smallest
CV profile, highest damage output else than PHH.

No.


CV5 is delicate for subject. Yes Europa can carry one bind of single 11". But 11
damage means jack squat, when 11'' hit like crap and CV have great submergence,
turning force to dogdge it.
6,75'' may enter in the subject, but we all know KM is freaking easy to bounce, so
any nation can just pack belt. You're done out there, because 1 bind HE and 1 bind
AP. Good luck being effective.

USN CV5, one binds of triple 8, going to spam few rounds, and you're out of the
field, if you rely on gunning.

USN triple 6 is the way to go.



MN PCV.... No just no. Explained clearly above. Duals fine, but not triple.



Else, other seems to be fine so far.