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  • Kaiser 2015 patch

    01. 21. 2015 22:12 PST


richardphat

Speak now, whether you feel it has been actually nerfed/buff .

As the author of the ship change, I want to know if you're having euphoria or nightmare when playing this ship post patch.

 

  • Re : Kaiser 2015 patch

    01. 22. 2015 07:06 PST


EricIdle

The spread has been very noticeably improved, even when rushing or running and shooting in front or behind.

Together with the change in damage consistency, even with lower maximum damage this will give at least the same AVERAGE damage. I think this is very good news. I hope, though, that this doesn't make the Kaiser OP...

  • Re : Kaiser 2015 patch

    01. 22. 2015 11:26 PST


joris92

I've played a few battles with the Kaiser today. All of those battle were played in GBs and I must say that I have never won so many battles in GB using my Kaiser. 
Thanks to the patch also this BB6 is more independent of its team, like the others.

The Kaiser felt really good, very decent spread and the damage was all right aswell. Sadly I haven't encountered many decent BB6 plays versus me in the GBs, so it is still difficult to tell whether she is overpowered in linefights now. The games I had in another BB6 vs the Kaiser wasn't too difficult either. Right now I think the spread is a bit too good.

I hope to do a BB6 only battle soon, or otherwise I'll test her in a HA/HD, so that I have a better clue of how good she's actually is in linefights.

  • Re : Kaiser 2015 patch

    01. 22. 2015 19:01 PST


Sumi808

Its nice the way it is, thank you for making it the way it should have been =)

  • Re : Kaiser 2015 patch

    01. 22. 2015 22:24 PST


EricIdle

Originally Posted by Sumi808

Its nice the way it is, thank you for making it the way it should have been =)

"Thanks for buffing my stuff"?

Oh dear.

  • Re : Kaiser 2015 patch

    01. 23. 2015 08:36 PST


Sumi808

If you take the time to read old forum data you will see that spread and accuracy have long been problematic as has the damage.

These have been fixed... hence its now how it should have been...  

  • Re : Kaiser 2015 patch

    01. 23. 2015 08:55 PST


EricIdle

Originally Posted by Sumi808

If you take the time to read old forum data you will see that spread and accuracy have long been problematic as has the damage.

These have been fixed... hence its now how it should have been...  

If you take the time to read just the posts above yours, you'll see that people (myself included) are very much aware of that.

  • Re : Kaiser 2015 patch

    01. 26. 2015 11:49 PST


normpearii

Originally Posted by EricIdle

Originally Posted by Sumi808

If you take the time to read old forum data you will see that spread and accuracy have long been problematic as has the damage.

These have been fixed... hence its now how it should have been...  

If you take the time to read just the posts above yours, you'll see that people (myself included) are very much aware of that.


Sumi808 has the record for most GBs in the last 3 months, scoutless according to my "Scoutless BB" screenshot records... 

  • Re : Kaiser 2015 patch

    01. 26. 2015 11:56 PST


EricIdle

Originally Posted by normpearii

Originally Posted by EricIdle

Originally Posted by Sumi808

If you take the time to read old forum data you will see that spread and accuracy have long been problematic as has the damage.

These have been fixed... hence its now how it should have been...  

If you take the time to read just the posts above yours, you'll see that people (myself included) are very much aware of that.


Sumi808 has the record for most GBs in the last 3 months, scoutless according to my "Scoutless BB" screenshot records... 

And he's applying to become a jedi. They'll be loving this, lol.

  • Re : Kaiser 2015 patch

    01. 26. 2015 19:59 PST


richardphat

Below you will find the picture of the spread from before and after.

You will notice the main difference in the spread, better spread consistent and the cost of damage nerfed. Quite justified when you are less likely to get trolled by the RNG factor from the game. It is personally more confortable knowing your shells will land because you know where to aim, and not "I aim but I missed because of spread".

 

Again, the idea is not to make a blockshot monster or super tight. Spread wise is good at line fighting but horrible when it comes to rush/run. I believe the following testing and evidence have shown enough information.

 

 

 

 

  • Re : Kaiser 2015 patch

    01. 30. 2015 18:46 PST


SzKuDi

Pros:
Spread seems to be slightly better.
Armour penetration got better.

Cons:
Damage got redeced too much, it seems to be somewhere between bb4-5 damage range.
I did some fire testing with my friend, kaiser to kaiser side to side @ 40 degree angle.
Our 100% hit salwos on live server was:

39943 41921 34432 38003 46077 46656 50091 49905 49992 49069 49530 44666 44646 44322 41707 40090 41986

Which gives 44296 medium damage.

To compare we have tested also other bb6.

Nebraska:

44557 55105 56940 50694 49080 54811 45270 51837 56745 56778 53827 46629 56982 50096 56715 54771 56499 61673
Which gives 53278 medium damage.

P24:

73617 73512 62895 63912 47660 59702 53887 63624 63618 46592 62514 54562 62400 63546 62664 62913 63909 51169 62024
Which gives 60774 medium damage.

Amagi:

63630 62650 50382 61750 57968 61660 53370 63462 62640 59403 64090 53730 57017 61560 56268 50991
Which gives 58785 medium damage.

Charlemagne:

65706 52535 67107 67426 67721 61679 48496 71160 67510 67549 67346 70692 71421 71163
Which gives 65536 medium damage (real damage might be higher due to the high number of oneshoots that has occured during testing).

Queen Victoria:

51117 55857 53161 56370 52185 44288 51732 41590 49245 54951 55857 42182 47993 55704 55206 56415 50367 55959 43759
Which give 51260 medium damage.

Progetto UP41:

41636 54873 47825 55662 54573 42753 45901 49897 55266 48573 55368 45081 55368 49735 54873 51848
Which gives 50577 medium damage.

In my opinion Kaiser's damage should get buffed so the medium damage would be somewhere around 50k, right now it's awful. It's not a punch it's a slap...
I've played few GBs and I felt like i would play bb3-4 with bb6 range :/
If someone use his brain and manuver it's realy very unlike to land a 100% salvo from Kaiser, even after it's spread buff, which means that you can count on something around 20k damage max, which in my opinion is poor.

On the other hand Nebraska used to be good HA fighter against armoured oponents. Right now it may have some hard time fulfiling this role after decreasing shell mass from 1750 to 1480. (11.6" deck L2 absolutely bounced all of my salvos).

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