Torpedo EXP wasn't nerfed. The way it is factored into personal or team experience has been changed.

Also, what have these 'dinosaur' BB drivers received again? PHHs have the range of regular HHs which have the range of a 6" cruiser. PHH were already set for the game, the sprite had existed before subs were introduced. That was your only argument.

Now allow me to retort; the sub experience is roughly HALF of that of a BB. I am currently leveling my sub crew and a BB3 crew on an EBB3. Both are level 85-89 and the sub get ~22,000 EXP for a win with ~100,000 attack and the EBB3 gets ~40,000-45,000 EXP for the same attack.

Now, if that was all, please back up your claims for now on.

lol New players who that think they know what im talking about


Listen if you werent playing when the first subs came out then you have no idea what im talking or or on what lvl of play i've played the subs and yes exp has dropped from what it originally was so plz if you havent been playing the subs since they came out dont get involved in this, cause you just make youre self look bad

yes, i would like to get more exp for killing 3 + bb's than killing 3 planes with aa .

so yes , look at the last thing written in the first post. he says damage but means exp.

so dun come in here like u know all .

i was show casing it just saturday to me m8 DD ,145k dmg, no tk, win and get 18 k exp !

and i need to do 9 or 10 more lvl's to my ss5 , and have been thinking of all kind of snake ways to do so , but ima do it slow & enjoy this , let the babys cry , call me names and skilless .but taking subs out is easy and subs are fragile also powerfull and get no exp .

tw is a voluntary job this day and age

So you say that I can feel differently on my subs than feeling like a martyr? NO WAY!

Well after grinding though the km bb lines till bb5 and getting my km ss4, IMO there's a sorta stable balance in the game now between bbs and ss's,

Comparison between bbs and ss ONLY

(+ve pointsfor bbs)
More exp gain
access to anti ss weapons
Faster Rate of leveling
Access to scouts

(-ve point for bbs)
Forever on the surface & unable to submerge
Forever Vulnerable to DBs ( can be countered)
Limited Bulge if you're following guides ( max bulge until speed is lowered)
Even with 255 bulge it would not hold up well against ss torps


(+ve Points for ss's)
Able to submerge
High torp damage (in most cases)
Able to defend against anti ss weapons ( roughly 50% of the time against phh and hh)
Able to reach enemy BB lines and (depending on playstyle)

(-ve Points for ss's)
Less Exp Gain
Slower Leveling Rate
No access to scouts ( with the exception of IJN SS5 but then again its has a massive speed nerf )
When forced to surface its pretty much the end unless they enemy is incompetent.
PHHs HURT ALOT
Almost all ships have access to anti SS weapons ( HHs and Dcs)
Limited Air Supply and Critical Dive times ( until your DP gives way)

-And although it kinda irks me that the exp gain is lower than compared to in a bb doing the same damage i've grown used to it and accepted it as a trade off for the positive points of playing SSes


Well the above might sound crude and to some, might be utter bull in your opinions. But i'd say it is balanced at this point. Any further tweeking to exp rates and the subtile balance might be. Screwed

-Note If you have any disagreements to the above mentioned please do not hesitate to clarify and mention.

Have a good Day