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  • @TNF

    04. 12. 2012 05:58


Chief0Milo

Right, youve had your fun implementing a totally worthless patch. How about pulling your finger out of each others orrifices and actually fixing that stupidly overpowered italian BB4?

And whle your at it, fix everything else that you keep implementing and leaving to be totally unbalanced. We dont want new stuff, we just want you guys to do your god dam jobs and fix things, then people will be happy.

Or you got more stupidly useless patches in the pipeline which you think we want more of....  

You koreans or w/e nationality you guys are have no idea about how to sort out priorities. How about this, its a simple explanation;

1) Fix things.

2) Then create new things.

3)fix them new things.

4)create more new things.

See how it works? 

 

  • Re : @TNF

    04. 12. 2012 06:27


ljsevern

A) TNF aren't the ones implementing patches.

B) The Italian BB4 is being worked on. Check the test server forum. 

  • Re : @TNF

    04. 12. 2012 06:54


Chief0Milo

A) They are the go between for $DE so again, Ill aim it at them. Coz it certainly aint SDE that ever come to these forums.

B) How the hell has it taken this long 'to be worked on'?
Cmon Lj, your starting to sound like them <.> 

  • Re : @TNF

    04. 12. 2012 07:11


Pathfinder19

Originally Posted by Chief0Milo

A) They are the go between for $DE so again, Ill aim it at them. Coz it certainly aint SDE that ever come to these forums.

B) How the hell has it taken this long 'to be worked on'?
Cmon Lj, your starting to sound like them <.> 



A) MK2 Reads the forums everyday, Vick although not SDE also is on the forums everyday and brings concerns directly to SDE. You can also send your concerns via support ticket. There is always the thought that SDE is not trying, but what I see from GMs is 100% effort all the time. I'm not in contact with them about their business plans, or game development of course. All my expereince is based off of going to GMs with customer service concerns and events.

B) I'm not intimate with the testing so I can't say.

  • Re : @TNF

    04. 12. 2012 07:14


tappo01

Agreed, it has been over a month and still no fix. Games are currently being decided by which team has the most RM BB4/5/6s.

This week's patch was no too bad, better than nothing, but there are FAR more important things to patch than moving "player has joined the battleroom" messages to the top right corner.

Also what about the fleet penalty and red guidelines when crossing suggestions? They have like 80%+ approval in the polls section...

  • Re : @TNF

    04. 12. 2012 07:25


Chief0Milo

Originally Posted by Pathfinder19

A) MK2 Reads the forums everyday, Vick although not SDE also is on the forums everyday and brings concerns directly to SDE. You can also send your concerns via support ticket. There is always the thought that SDE is not trying, but what I see from GMs is 100% effort all the time. I'm not in contact with them about their business plans, or game development of course. All my expereince is based off of going to GMs with customer service concerns and events. 


B) I'm not intimate with the testing so I can't say.



Pathfinder, I appreciate your attempt at an honest answer.

However GMs can put 100% effort into it, but that doesnt make any difference to the fact that SDE are probably only doin about 20% on stuff that *needs* to be addressed while 80% on stuff that is irrelevant but will bring in more thigns to become bugged. Not these token gestures which are used to make it appear they are actually doing something when theyre really not. 

@ Tappo
We all know what really happens with useful suggestions... Nothing until perhaps 3 years later when 1 semi decent suggestion gets handpicked and gets buggily implemented.... 

  • Re : @TNF

    04. 12. 2012 07:33


ljsevern

Originally Posted by Chief0Milo

A) They are the go between for $DE so again, Ill aim it at them. Coz it certainly aint SDE that ever come to these forums.

B) How the hell has it taken this long 'to be worked on'?
Cmon Lj, your starting to sound like them <.> 



A) You said they made the patch. They didn't.

B) Because guns take a long time to actually get right, and we are waiting for the test server to be sorted. Read the test server forums. There are a number of bugs we need to get rid of first. 

While it would be awesome if SDE had delayed it and let us fixed the guns before hand, I feel that the only reason SDE did it because every week you would have people whining about wanting the new nations.

The community whines about broken new content when its released, but whines about the lack of it when its in development. The community needs to branch together and get its direction aimed at.

You've even got some players making suggestions for even more new nations and ships... 

  • Re : @TNF

    04. 12. 2012 08:26


tappo01

At least can we have the auto "balance" adjusted so that it doesnt put all the F'ing RM BBs on the same team?

I just had a game where B had 2 110+ RM BB4's, 1 120 RM BB5, Amagi, 110+ US PCV. There were some good players on A in normal ships and B won in like 5 minutes.

  • Re : @TNF

    04. 12. 2012 08:33


Chief0Milo

Originally Posted by ljsevern

A) You said they made the patch. They didn't.

 

Originally Posted by Chief0Milo

A) They are the go between for $DE so again, Ill aim it at them.

Do i really need to reiterate myself again? 

Originally Posted by ljsevern
 
B) Because guns take a long time to actually get right, and we are waiting for the test server to be sorted. Read the test server forums. There are a number of bugs we need to get rid of first. 

While it would be awesome if SDE had delayed it and let us fixed the guns before hand, I feel that the only reason SDE did it because every week you would have people whining about wanting the new nations.

The community whines about broken new content when its released, but whines about the lack of it when its in development. The community needs to branch together and get its direction aimed at.

You've even got some players making suggestions for even more new nations and ships... 


Do they not look at these things before releasing them? I mean come on, a BB4 the size/hitbox of a small CL, speed of a BB5, shell strength of a BB5 (regardless of because of its angle or not) and practically the same range as a BB5.

How in the hell did they not see it was going to be an issue? must be cos theyre spending soo much time putting effort into doing their job properly....

Yes the community whine about broken content, but your making it sound like they bring out new things every 2 months or so, and that they can't keep up because of it.

Uhm, No. SDE leave a huuuge gap inbetween.
As for the players making new suggestions at nations, thast fine, but did that ever make SDE listen and immediately take action? No.

They usually drag their heels. Theyd be stupid to listen and take action while thigns are broken, heck stupid to even contemplate thinking about it. 

Like I already said, If they fixed what they already got, then people would generally become more happier rather than feel like they have to go grab FotM each time something is released...

To be honest, they've put themselves well into this situation all by themselves. What with the huge amount of exp gain already available, its no wonder people zoom right up the trees and finish ship lines and want more stuff.

Fix GB/shared exp first. Then the problem of people wanting more stuff already would fix itself.

But that is too long sighted for SDE to even consider. They only do things for the short run. 

  • Re : @TNF

    04. 12. 2012 09:34


ljsevern

Originally Posted by Chief0Milo

Originally Posted by ljsevern

A) You said they made the patch. They didn't.

 

Originally Posted by Chief0Milo

A) They are the go between for $DE so again, Ill aim it at them.

Do i really need to reiterate myself again? 



No you don't if you don't want to make yourself look silly again. TNF don't do the patches. Don't blame them. 

Originally Posted by Chief0Milo
 

 

Originally Posted by ljsevern
 
B) Because guns take a long time to actually get right, and we are waiting for the test server to be sorted. Read the test server forums. There are a number of bugs we need to get rid of first. 

While it would be awesome if SDE had delayed it and let us fixed the guns before hand, I feel that the only reason SDE did it because every week you would have people whining about wanting the new nations.

The community whines about broken new content when its released, but whines about the lack of it when its in development. The community needs to branch together and get its direction aimed at.

You've even got some players making suggestions for even more new nations and ships... 


Do they not look at these things before releasing them? I mean come on, a BB4 the size/hitbox of a small CL, speed of a BB5, shell strength of a BB5 (regardless of because of its angle or not) and practically the same range as a BB5.

How in the hell did they not see it was going to be an issue? must be cos theyre spending soo much time putting effort into doing their job properly....

Yes the community whine about broken content, but your making it sound like they bring out new things every 2 months or so, and that they can't keep up because of it.

Uhm, No. SDE leave a huuuge gap inbetween.
As for the players making new suggestions at nations, thast fine, but did that ever make SDE listen and immediately take action? No.

They usually drag their heels. Theyd be stupid to listen and take action while thigns are broken, heck stupid to even contemplate thinking about it. 

Like I already said, If they fixed what they already got, then people would generally become more happier rather than feel like they have to go grab FotM each time something is released...

To be honest, they've put themselves well into this situation all by themselves. What with the huge amount of exp gain already available, its no wonder people zoom right up the trees and finish ship lines and want more stuff.

Fix GB/shared exp first. Then the problem of people wanting more stuff already would fix itself.

But that is too long sighted for SDE to even consider. They only do things for the short run. 



Then direct it at SDE. To be honest, they have listened more in the last 2 months than the last 2 years. Things take time. Instead of raging, actually make decent suggestions and try to help, now that SDE are actually listening.

You yourself are blaming TNF for things that SDE have been at fault with. Which is something SDE is trying to improve. 

  • Re : @TNF

    04. 12. 2012 09:44


Chief0Milo

Originally Posted by ljsevern

Originally Posted by Chief0Milo

Originally Posted by ljsevern

A) You said they made the patch. They didn't.

 

Originally Posted by Chief0Milo

A) They are the go between for $DE so again, Ill aim it at them.

Do i really need to reiterate myself again? 



No you don't if you don't want to make yourself look silly again. TNF don't do the patches. Don't blame them. 

You yourself are blaming TNF for things that SDE have been at fault with. Which is something SDE is trying to improve. 



Really? I mean seriously?

TNF are the reps.

When people have issues, they go to the reps because thats what reps are there for. Reps pass on the info and so the rep job is done. TNF is at the forefront of communicating between SDE so like I said, Ill direct it at him while he can then go direct it at SDE... Or ignore it...
You can get nitpicky about such things all you want, but m points still stand.
So rather than make yourself look silly, how about ignoring this and letting me carry on? Because im going to, regardless of what you say, or how stupid I look, because there are people feeling this too. Its nice n everything that you got your own suggestions arranged with TNF and they managed to keep you happy and strung alongg but how about accepting the fact that they are dragging their heels more than they should be?

**removed this, you didnt deserve that  bit**

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