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  • Massive amount of ABing going on.

    09. 06. 2014 17:29


LSUguru

I cant prove it but it is so damn obvious. Not to mention the massive AA TKing going down. I rarely use fighters now because these idiots will AA my fighters even if there are no scouts around.

 

  • Re : Massive amount of ABing going on.

    09. 07. 2014 19:53


phluph

Subs rock!  And yes, BB's would do better to take advantage of sight subs can give and sink more ASW pests.

  • Re : Massive amount of ABing going on.

    09. 08. 2014 07:20


HeroEnVec

Originally Posted by Whatzup

Xp isnt the isue here because it doesnt matter much what you sink as long as you win the game.

 

Are you saying you think the xp is fine, or that simply buffing the xp doesn't matter because its not earned?

 

Because let me tell you... the other night i straight up won the game for my team in an ss6 and got 18k xp.  There is zero motivation for me to play SS knowing that.  Well... other than occasionally having fun trolling other ss w tb's....

  • Re : Massive amount of ABing going on.

    09. 08. 2014 10:34


rocketeer1

Would 2 APA avoiding each other to capture islands on Conquest map be considered AB'ing ?

  • Re : Massive amount of ABing going on.

    09. 08. 2014 12:47


StJuggs

Originally Posted by rocketeer1

Would 2 APA avoiding each other to capture islands on Conquest map be considered AB'ing ?


No.

  • Re : Massive amount of ABing going on.

    09. 08. 2014 12:50


guth_lutjens

Originally Posted by HeroEnVec

Further, ANY ship that hits an SS needs to get a HUGE xp bonus, like double.  This would encourage asw play allowing more ships to carry AA cannons again rather than HH.  LAST but not least, high level asw/AA supporrt ships (say, lvl 70-80 DD class) need to be introduced to make grinding a sub less of a PITA.

 

I don't get it. To make more BBs carry AA gun instead of HH/PHH, AAW experience gain + expert gain need to be increased. If any ship gets tons of exp by shooting a sub, all BBs would carry nuclear PHH instead of AA gun, and as a result SS will have no chance of survival in this game.

Also, it is already very hard for any subs (even lvl 105 SS6) to survive in this game, when DD/CL and even CV have crazy long sonar range, and every BB/CA/CV have 2000 binds of nuclear PHH with 10 sec reload.

DD/CL sonar range should be reduced. BB should not be allowed to carry HH at all, since no BB should have any ASW ability (it's the duty of DD CL CV SS to do ASW). Also ASW should encourage the use of depth charge (which requires skill) instead of nuclear PHH (no skill required and pay-to-win). About 99% ASW players these days don't know how to use depth charge at all.

  • Re : Massive amount of ABing going on.

    09. 08. 2014 14:35


Whatzup

Originally Posted by HeroEnVec

Originally Posted by Whatzup

Xp isnt the isue here because it doesnt matter much what you sink as long as you win the game.

Are you saying you think the xp is fine, or that simply buffing the xp doesn't matter because its not earned?

No, Xp gain is obvious broken for subs, But Abing in a sub doesnt make much sense. You can sink all BB's but when you lose you will get less then 10k Xp.

A sub driver should always go for the biggest threat to his team if he wants max Xp gain, that can be a sub a CV or a BB as long that what he sinks cause the enemy to lose

Boost shared Xp will I think lead to more leaching and shared XP is evil anyway so please no.

This Xp issue can be solved pretty easy but TNF wasnt intressed at all. To bad because most balance problems seen in GB are due broken XP gain.

  • Re : Massive amount of ABing going on.

    09. 08. 2014 14:53


JohnnyQuick

Originally Posted by LSUguru

..... obvious .....



So clear a blind man can see it.


Originally Posted by JimmyEAC

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Sadly though, I feel ss vs ss xp is even lower than standard SS xp, which is low to begin with.  




I feel you are right about this.


Originally Posted by adis340

SS driver hunting BBs gives a lot xp!!

if they hunt SS low xp.
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Very true......


Originally Posted by Whatzup

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Xp isnt the isue here because it doesnt matter much what you sink as long as you win the game.

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exp points are quite the issue, to the contrary....

SS and ASW seems tied together and both should see increase in exp point value. The A-B ing issue is as plain as day without the use of packet monitors but can only be proven with the same.

Otherwise it is just a gripe that for the most part is unfounded.

  • Re : Massive amount of ABing going on.

    09. 08. 2014 14:57


clancer2020

Originally Posted by jacopo

Originally Posted by HeroEnVec

watch where SS line up if you want to laugh.  most of the time one team's ss will go N, and the other will go S.  Priceless.  I could point out fleets that are famous for this, but nobody really cares about it anymore.



i dont fight other SS b/c SS vs SS is stupid


careful jacopo I got a 3 day ban for suggesting that very thing.

  • Re : Massive amount of ABing going on.

    09. 08. 2014 15:10


Whatzup

Originally Posted by JohnnyQuick

exp points are quite the issue, to the contrary....


A issue that cause ABing as that is what this topic is about? 

The only ship that doesnt benifit from ABing is a sub.

 

Originally Posted by clancer2020

careful jacopo I got a 3 day ban for suggesting that very thing.

If this is true TNF really lost it. So TNF decide what ship I attack and what ship not?

Just lol...TNF never fail to deliver a good joke whahahaha...

Did you TNF guys even realized that when he is bad at sub vs sub combat its indeed better for his team to avoid it....

 

  • Re : Massive amount of ABing going on.

    09. 08. 2014 19:32


JohnnyQuick

Originally Posted by Whatzup

 

A issue that cause ABing as that is what this topic is about? 

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Yes, A-B ing affects the battle outcome and by extension affects the exp points gained or lost.

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