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Patch 1.439
01. 27. 2015 18:33
Rehor
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NFNA server is going to be down for the maintenance and the patch.
- Jan 27, 10 PM to Jan 28, 1 AM (PST)
Patch V 1.439
1. EBB6 related issues have been fixed.
-EBB6 guns are not interchangeable anymore.
-EBB6s are classed as "SD" class ships and restricted for the SD class ship limit in GB.
-Gun positions of EBB6 are corrected.
-Ship size has been fixed.
SN.BB Project 25
RM.BB Roma
Regards,
NF GM Team
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Re : Patch 1.439
01. 28. 2015 07:55
nyerkovic
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Originally Posted by marka93
I thought the new ECV's was to bridge the gap but the Georgia is slower than both the Tyco and Lexy it has the same Aircraft loadout as the Tyco and 1 less slot, the gun space is half of the Lexy gun space and it has less durabillity than the Tyco.
(Whats with the name also there was never a CV named Georgia, there were both a BB and a Sub named Georgia but not a CV.)
You are looking at the wrong elements to bridge the gap.
Speed doesn't matter.
Gun Space? It's not a BB. You have enough to keep defending yourself.
Look at the level: 104 vs 114
Look at the launch: 11 vs 12.
Less slot and durability are trade offs
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Re : Patch 1.439
01. 28. 2015 08:33
ljsevern
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Originally Posted by Hunter1109
I actually thought all the testing was done good for how long it took for them to get released. Yet they get released today and there is something wrong as you can't change T slot guns after installing them on the new event ships.
The test team needs to get their gear in order and actually test something fully before releasing it on the live server! Better yet fix the lag and other issues in the game first before adding new content which has been said a million times now!
You do realise the test team are unpaid volunteers and there are also bound to be bugs with patches? You also realise the test team have nothing to do with fixing the lag and other issues (i'm guessing you are talking about desyncs/crashes). If you have suggestions on what other things need to be fixed, feel free to be constuctive and say what needs to be fixed. Also, have you seen SDE's announcement on their next project? Fixing the crashes and desyncs?
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Re : Patch 1.439
01. 28. 2015 08:56
karl_donuts
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Originally Posted by ljsevern
Originally Posted by Hunter1109
I actually thought all the testing was done good for how long it took for them to get released. Yet they get released today and there is something wrong as you can't change T slot guns after installing them on the new event ships.
The test team needs to get their gear in order and actually test something fully before releasing it on the live server! Better yet fix the lag and other issues in the game first before adding new content which has been said a million times now!
You do realise the test team are unpaid volunteers and there are also bound to be bugs with patches? You also realise the test team have nothing to do with fixing the lag and other issues (i'm guessing you are talking about desyncs/crashes). If you have suggestions on what other things need to be fixed, feel free to be constuctive and say what needs to be fixed. Also, have you seen SDE's announcement on their next project? Fixing the crashes and desyncs?
Until i see they have fixed the crashes and desyncs with my own eyes i will still presume i have more chance of meeting Elvis and having a drink with him and the loch ness monster.
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Re : Patch 1.439
01. 28. 2015 09:04
marka93
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Originally Posted by nyerkovic
Originally Posted by marka93
I thought the new ECV's was to bridge the gap but the Georgia is slower than both the Tyco and Lexy it has the same Aircraft loadout as the Tyco and 1 less slot, the gun space is half of the Lexy gun space and it has less durabillity than the Tyco.
(Whats with the name also there was never a CV named Georgia, there were both a BB and a Sub named Georgia but not a CV.)
You are looking at the wrong elements to bridge the gap.
Speed doesn't matter.
Gun Space? It's not a BB. You have enough to keep defending yourself.
Look at the level: 104 vs 114
Look at the launch: 11 vs 12.
Less slot and durability are trade offs
No im not looking at the wrong elements for i can not use any lvl 114 sailor as a BO like i can on the Tyco and the Tyco gets full XP for all lvl up to 121 any way, Tyco has 8 guns slots vs only 4 at less than Tyco and half of the Lexy gun slot space, its slower and 1 less slot. At 10 lvl higher than the Tyco it should have had more Air craft space but no it the same as the Tyco. 1 extra plane launch is not good enough for it to be lvl 114, at these specs it should be no higher than maybe 108 more like 106. The Georgia dose not bridge the gap like the Tyco does.
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Re : Patch 1.439
01. 28. 2015 09:23
normpearii
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Originally Posted by marka93
Originally Posted by nyerkovic
Originally Posted by marka93
I thought the new ECV's was to bridge the gap but the Georgia is slower than both the Tyco and Lexy it has the same Aircraft loadout as the Tyco and 1 less slot, the gun space is half of the Lexy gun space and it has less durabillity than the Tyco.
(Whats with the name also there was never a CV named Georgia, there were both a BB and a Sub named Georgia but not a CV.)
You are looking at the wrong elements to bridge the gap.
Speed doesn't matter.
Gun Space? It's not a BB. You have enough to keep defending yourself.
Look at the level: 104 vs 114
Look at the launch: 11 vs 12.
Less slot and durability are trade offs
No im not looking at the wrong elements for i can not use any lvl 114 sailor as a BO like i can on the Tyco and the Tyco gets full XP for all lvl up to 121 any way, Tyco has 8 guns slots vs only 4 at less than Tyco and half of the Lexy gun slot space, its slower and 1 less slot. At 10 lvl higher than the Tyco it should have had more Air craft space but no it the same as the Tyco. 1 extra plane launch is not good enough for it to be lvl 114, at these specs it should be no higher than maybe 108 more like 106. The Georgia dose not bridge the gap like the Tyco does.
You sir, need to open your eyes. 1.) PCV =/= ECV, the new ECV requires a BO classed to the CV5. 2.) Tico does not recieve full EXP to 120. If you honestly think it does, you have no idea what your talking about. 3.) No, because the Tico is a premium ship. the Event ship is to bridge the gap between CV5 and CV6 assuming you have no Premium CV. 4.) The level is the bridge the level gap between late 90 CV5s and the 120 CV6s to maximize EXP gain. Levels do not determine the performance of the ship. The stats do. 5.) +1 plane launch is what determines a set up in tiers. You think this is worth only 9 levels? You do realize the gap between the Essex and Lexington is 18 levels right? The gap between Lexington and Midway is 23 levels.
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Re : Patch 1.439
01. 28. 2015 09:44
ljsevern
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Originally Posted by karl_donuts
Originally Posted by ljsevern
Originally Posted by Hunter1109
I actually thought all the testing was done good for how long it took for them to get released. Yet they get released today and there is something wrong as you can't change T slot guns after installing them on the new event ships.
The test team needs to get their gear in order and actually test something fully before releasing it on the live server! Better yet fix the lag and other issues in the game first before adding new content which has been said a million times now!
You do realise the test team are unpaid volunteers and there are also bound to be bugs with patches? You also realise the test team have nothing to do with fixing the lag and other issues (i'm guessing you are talking about desyncs/crashes). If you have suggestions on what other things need to be fixed, feel free to be constuctive and say what needs to be fixed. Also, have you seen SDE's announcement on their next project? Fixing the crashes and desyncs?
Until i see they have fixed the crashes and desyncs with my own eyes i will still presume i have more chance of meeting Elvis and having a drink with him and the loch ness monster.
I never said they have fixed them. But they have said they are attempting to. They have also said this. They've got rid of Vick. They've got rid of smokes in HA. They've been actively working with the test team. The have been communicating since Vick was sacked. Its a massive change for SDE and when you have a GM pulling a HUGE shift without sleep in constant contact with the test team, you do see that they care about the game. I'm not going to make any promises, but i'm optimistic, and after all the crap i've been through from Vick and his cronies, its taken a lot to get me to this point. If you have anything that you feel you can help with, such as bug reports, ways to fix desyncs/crashes etc, then i'm sure SDE are all ears.
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Re : Patch 1.439
01. 28. 2015 09:49
karl_donuts
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Originally Posted by ljsevern
Originally Posted by karl_donuts
Originally Posted by ljsevern
Originally Posted by Hunter1109
I actually thought all the testing was done good for how long it took for them to get released. Yet they get released today and there is something wrong as you can't change T slot guns after installing them on the new event ships.
The test team needs to get their gear in order and actually test something fully before releasing it on the live server! Better yet fix the lag and other issues in the game first before adding new content which has been said a million times now!
You do realise the test team are unpaid volunteers and there are also bound to be bugs with patches? You also realise the test team have nothing to do with fixing the lag and other issues (i'm guessing you are talking about desyncs/crashes). If you have suggestions on what other things need to be fixed, feel free to be constuctive and say what needs to be fixed. Also, have you seen SDE's announcement on their next project? Fixing the crashes and desyncs?
Until i see they have fixed the crashes and desyncs with my own eyes i will still presume i have more chance of meeting Elvis and having a drink with him and the loch ness monster.
I never said they have fixed them. But they have said they are attempting to. They have also said this. They've got rid of Vick. They've got rid of smokes in HA. They've been actively working with the test team. The have been communicating since Vick was sacked. Its a massive change for SDE and when you have a GM pulling a HUGE shift without sleep in constant contact with the test team, you do see that they care about the game. I'm not going to make any promises, but i'm optimistic, and after all the crap i've been through from Vick and his cronies, its taken a lot to get me to this point. If you have anything that you feel you can help with, such as bug reports, ways to fix desyncs/crashes etc, then i'm sure SDE are all ears.
I hope they do but it is a little too late for most people. Maybe somehow this game can be rescued and they find a way to sustain the people left and maybe get more people to come back or new people to start up,
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Re : Patch 1.439
01. 28. 2015 11:03
ljsevern
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Originally Posted by karl_donuts
Originally Posted by ljsevern
Originally Posted by karl_donuts
Originally Posted by ljsevern
Originally Posted by Hunter1109
I actually thought all the testing was done good for how long it took for them to get released. Yet they get released today and there is something wrong as you can't change T slot guns after installing them on the new event ships.
The test team needs to get their gear in order and actually test something fully before releasing it on the live server! Better yet fix the lag and other issues in the game first before adding new content which has been said a million times now!
You do realise the test team are unpaid volunteers and there are also bound to be bugs with patches? You also realise the test team have nothing to do with fixing the lag and other issues (i'm guessing you are talking about desyncs/crashes). If you have suggestions on what other things need to be fixed, feel free to be constuctive and say what needs to be fixed. Also, have you seen SDE's announcement on their next project? Fixing the crashes and desyncs?
Until i see they have fixed the crashes and desyncs with my own eyes i will still presume i have more chance of meeting Elvis and having a drink with him and the loch ness monster.
I never said they have fixed them. But they have said they are attempting to. They have also said this. They've got rid of Vick. They've got rid of smokes in HA. They've been actively working with the test team. The have been communicating since Vick was sacked. Its a massive change for SDE and when you have a GM pulling a HUGE shift without sleep in constant contact with the test team, you do see that they care about the game. I'm not going to make any promises, but i'm optimistic, and after all the crap i've been through from Vick and his cronies, its taken a lot to get me to this point. If you have anything that you feel you can help with, such as bug reports, ways to fix desyncs/crashes etc, then i'm sure SDE are all ears.
I hope they do but it is a little too late for most people. Maybe somehow this game can be rescued and they find a way to sustain the people left and maybe get more people to come back or new people to start up,
It probably was a little too late for some people and I can completely understand why people feel that way. Its amazing how much is getting done and communicated now that Vick11 is gone though. Just look at recent patches and announcements. Its also eye opening how much he lied about while he was in charge. But at the very least, we're still here, and SDE are certainly trying to fix things. The big kicker is the crashing and desyncs - if these get fixed, I certainly see people coming back to the game.
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Re : Patch 1.439
01. 28. 2015 11:35
marka93
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Originally Posted by normpearii
Originally Posted by marka93
Originally Posted by nyerkovic
Originally Posted by marka93
I thought the new ECV's was to bridge the gap but the Georgia is slower than both the Tyco and Lexy it has the same Aircraft loadout as the Tyco and 1 less slot, the gun space is half of the Lexy gun space and it has less durabillity than the Tyco.
(Whats with the name also there was never a CV named Georgia, there were both a BB and a Sub named Georgia but not a CV.)
You are looking at the wrong elements to bridge the gap.
Speed doesn't matter.
Gun Space? It's not a BB. You have enough to keep defending yourself.
Look at the level: 104 vs 114
Look at the launch: 11 vs 12.
Less slot and durability are trade offs
No im not looking at the wrong elements for i can not use any lvl 114 sailor as a BO like i can on the Tyco and the Tyco gets full XP for all lvl up to 121 any way, Tyco has 8 guns slots vs only 4 at less than Tyco and half of the Lexy gun slot space, its slower and 1 less slot. At 10 lvl higher than the Tyco it should have had more Air craft space but no it the same as the Tyco. 1 extra plane launch is not good enough for it to be lvl 114, at these specs it should be no higher than maybe 108 more like 106. The Georgia dose not bridge the gap like the Tyco does.
You sir, need to open your eyes. 1.) PCV =/= ECV, the new ECV requires a BO classed to the CV5. 2.) Tico does not recieve full EXP to 120. If you honestly think it does, you have no idea what your talking about. 3.) No, because the Tico is a premium ship. the Event ship is to bridge the gap between CV5 and CV6 assuming you have no Premium CV. 4.) The level is the bridge the level gap between late 90 CV5s and the 120 CV6s to maximize EXP gain. Levels do not determine the performance of the ship. The stats do. 5.) +1 plane launch is what determines a set up in tiers. You think this is worth only 9 levels? You do realize the gap between the Essex and Lexington is 18 levels right? The gap between Lexington and Midway is 23 levels.
This is what i knew an all mighty and righteous few test team member would say for they have a false since of righteous and you think that is the way it needs to be and forget the player base who would like them to help out. All i am saying is 1 more plane launch and just a few more planes dont make it better at lvl 114 instead is should have been around lvl 108 at the most. I did use the Tyco to lvl both my BB6 and CV6 Bo's and crews and i never saw a xp decrease but an increase in xp and yes this was over 5 years ago but hey i never seen any nerfs posted about the Tyco. The new ECV 5 for it is not a 6 has more cons by 2 times than it has pro's. Less gun space by almost half that of the CV5. Slower speed than both CV 5 and PCV. Same slot as CV 5 at lvl 97 and 1 less slot than the lvl 104 PCV at lvl 114 it shouls have had 9 like the PCV at least. Same aircraft loading as the lvl 104 PCV. Less durability at lvl 114 than the lvl 104 PCV. All for what, 1 more plane launch give me a break. No wonder they kept the stats hidden they knew the player base would complain about it.
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Re : Patch 1.439
01. 28. 2015 13:27
nyerkovic
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Originally Posted by marka93
The new ECV 5 for it is not a 6 has more cons by 2 times than it has pro's.
Less gun space by almost half that of the CV5.
Slower speed than both CV 5 and PCV.
Same slot as CV 5 at lvl 97 and 1 less slot than the lvl 104 PCV at lvl 114 it shouls have had 9 like the PCV at least.
Same aircraft loading as the lvl 104 PCV.
Less durability at lvl 114 than the lvl 104 PCV.
All for what, 1 more plane launch give me a break. No wonder they kept the stats hidden they knew the player base would complain about it.
You should weight your pro's and con's according to the role it plays in the game because it makes a huge difference in an argument. 1. Gun Space: Unless you want to go in the front lines with your CV and fight the BBs, you don't lose much capabilities considering your role in the battle. You want to use HH? You can. You want to use AA? You can. You want to use a gun that helps you defend yourself against close threats? You can. - Point nearly irrelevant. 2. Slower Speed: As ships progress, they lose speed. This is true for almost every ship class in the game. Also, you are comparing an event ship with a paid ship... read what Norm posted above. - Point nearly irrelevant. 3. Slots: You either get slots or you get greater launch. Otherwise you can send your CV6 to the harbor and leave it there. You get same slots as a CV5, but you get CV6 launch. IMO, a great improvement over the CV5. - You rate it as a con, but overall, its at least neutral (with a lot of people considering it a pro). If you want the extra slot, olives will get you there. 4. Same aicraft loading: Yes, same aircraft loading, but more attack power in the air at the same time. Con?... absolutely not. With more loading space, once again, you can send your CV6 to the harbor and let it rust. 5. Less durability: You get some perks, you lose others. PCV you get for olives, EBB you get for playing the game. Compare the durability to the CV5. Is it better? hell yes. Overall, Premium Ships and Event Ships have different roles. You are looking at the wrong elements and are weighting them wrongly.
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