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SS vs SS warfare needs fixing
12. 12. 2011 13:29
mattd3
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SS vs SS warfare usually seems to involve both SS sitting in crit dive until their torps reload, then coming back up and waiting for the other sub to come up, firing, and submerging again. The victor comes out severly lacking in air, and the loser comes out with very small amounts of attack. Even more broken is that it essentially comes down to who reloads faster. It especially hurts SS 1,2, and to a lesser extent 3, because by the time they're done they're at half health from crit diving and almost out of air. I'm not sure what can be done to fix it, I'm not a game designer, but I do know something needs to be fixed because in its current state, SS vs SS is just not fun unless you somehow manage to get into a real duel, and even then lower SS get screwed because they won't have enough air to do any real damage after that.
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Re : SS vs SS warfare needs fixing
12. 13. 2011 10:19
Monarch
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Originally Posted by AndrusN
*Insert SS Video guide here*
Thought about uploading some of the more hilarious times I have been trolling sub drivers with my sub. However, unless I Jedi Hax my way into my campus network just for youtube, most of residential Canada is limited to 1MB/s upload. It takes forever to post a video.
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Re : SS vs SS warfare needs fixing
12. 13. 2011 12:26
FalleNStaR
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Fire and turn(except w/ Ijn). If your ss1-2, stay with BBs and protect them. Guard a BB6. Stay on the line. If you rush dont expect to get far or to survive. Make an SS crew with a nation you already have high level engies in.
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Re : SS vs SS warfare needs fixing
12. 13. 2011 13:48
AndrusN
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Originally Posted by Monarch
Thought about uploading some of the more hilarious times I have been trolling sub drivers with my sub.
Yea I was thinking the same thing.
Originally Posted by Monarch
However, unless I Jedi Hax my way into my campus network just for youtube, most of residential Canada is limited to 1MB/s upload. It takes forever to post a video.
LOL Canada is funny.
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Re : SS vs SS warfare needs fixing
12. 13. 2011 13:58
Monarch
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Originally Posted by Andrus
Originally Posted by Monarch
However, unless I Jedi Hax my way into my campus network just for youtube, most of residential Canada is limited to 1MB/s upload. It takes forever to post a video.
LOL Canada is funny.
http://oi41.tinypic.com/2i7repu.jpg Yeah, be jealous of my 0.66 upload...
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Re : SS vs SS warfare needs fixing
12. 13. 2011 13:58
normpearii
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Altsein's only weakness with Subs, is SS vs SS, he is excellent most of the time in sinking ships and avoiding ASW
Not saying that he's bad at it, its just his weakest point, but he is better than a large number of people at it for being his weakness, there is however, many more players better @ ss vs ss that aren't anywhere near as good in dodging asw and hitting ships.
If you want to learn how to play ss vs ss, watch the subs facing each other and see what common things the winning sub does. Remember, every sub also has different advantages and weaknesses. (Gato with 6 front, 4 rear torps, KM with proxy torps, IJN's all front 8 torps ect)
Last but not least, practice makes perfect, this applies to all ships types and tiers.
Also, don't rely on your team to lose, win the game yourself. (I love this phrase that I made up in that one cv thread :) )
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Re : SS vs SS warfare needs fixing
12. 13. 2011 14:06
ozzy0
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Originally Posted by Falcon91
Originally Posted by woodskier
Seek the wisdom of the ultimate sub: Altsein, he is on Nebraska server, Amored Angel Fleet. and Ozzy0 from the Kaiser server.
The fact that I've sunk both of those sub players in a FF-Y and in a SS1 in sad that you say their names like that wood.
i feeld the need to respond to this since my name is use'd how can u clame to be asw or ss vs ss when the total amount of ss kills u have on that acc on kaiser is 20 i know woody and him and me treade toprs on a regular base sometimes he sinks sometimes i sink but u in a ff-y sorry but i can't remember u
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Re : SS vs SS warfare needs fixing
12. 13. 2011 17:10
dingy
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you cant nerf the best...it only makes them stronger...NF has tried 12 times, from buffing HH to nerfing subs...you can nerf the ship but not the player
ss1 and ss2 are defensive ships and should almost NEVER leave the front lines of the friendly side...their job is to detect subs coming into the battle lines and have the help of HH equipt ship...if lucky getting the kill shot
the ss3 is the middle ground and the first taste of the higher level ships
the ss4 and 5 are attack subs
so in a surface ship perspective you expect an FF to own a BB6? i dont think so...like the ss you have to earn and learn your way up to kill the best...everyone has to go through it...we all have and its a gruelling grind..it wouldnt be fair for the ones who have worked for years on their crew to get to the point they are now
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Re : SS vs SS warfare needs fixing
12. 13. 2011 17:11
dingy
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Originally Posted by woodskier
Seek the wisdom of the ultimate sub: Altsein, he is on Nebraska server, Amored Angel Fleet. and Ozzy0 from the Kaiser server.
ultimate sub? interesting there is no "ultimate" sub there is alot of wicked players out there...no one is the best ... not one single person is ... there is a group of subs from all walks of life which have huge respect for each others skills and tactics ...Al is one of them of course...i have encountered maybe good players and even if i die the way they kill me is just as exciting as me killing them there will be many more wicked subs in the future by learning from their own mistakes, trying different tactics, learning from others, and finding their own style of play you can tell who the best are by their attitude to the battles...they usually say good game even if they die and dont gloat about killing a ss player or any player
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Re : SS vs SS warfare needs fixing
12. 13. 2011 17:49
FalleNStaR
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BBs are the awp campers. SS is the knife fight.
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Re : SS vs SS warfare needs fixing
12. 13. 2011 19:46
mattd3
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It's all well and good to say "SS1-2 are defense", but there's a few problems with that. Firstly, it's boring as hell as only SS get to your line intact. Secondly, you're not even guaranteed to see an enemy SS or get to it before it either sinks its target and/or dies.
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