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  • Conversion rate 200% doesn´t work

    04. 13. 2012 06:05


SysT3ms

Dear Navyfield,

I burned 1000 experts (600 in KM sailors with 120-150 vets and 400 in sailors with 160-170) and only 10 experts has been promoted to veterans.

Also I burned 300 experts in two sailors with less than 100 vets and 40 has been promoted.

I think it is unacceptable, the conversion rate is not boosted and of course I will not use in this event the 5000 I still remains in my storage.

Yesterday I spent 1200 olives (previously bought, dont get it by trades) in experts packs, but with these conversion rates and already 5 bb6 I am thinking seriously dont spend more money, at least in experts, for a very long time.

If this is the way you have to earn money I think you are absolutely wrong.

Regards,

An angry player

 

  • Re : Conversion rate 200% doesn´t work

    04. 13. 2012 12:11


Piombo

1st off with out an event like this id shoot my self when trying to get all my Teir4 and 5 crews over 200+ vets per sailor because out of all the Experts that must be burned with out a Conversion boost i can convert 800 exp and maybe get 2 or 3 with luck but every time a Conversion boost comes i spend all my time and Points converting as many experts to Vets and my best time so far was 7 out off 200 on a lvl 100+ sailors and ive managed 13 on a lvl 80s sailor out of 500 exp the higher the lvl the harder to convert low lvls always are the easiest and i just managed to Vet capp a few more of my BB4 and 5 sailors try doing this with out a conversion boost

 

  • Re : Conversion rate 200% doesn´t work

    04. 13. 2012 18:06


testarossa

burnt 6400 experts.
total of 13 crews excluded BO gain vets from 100 to 170.  

this is still a good result in my eyes. 

  • Re : Conversion rate 200% doesn´t work

    04. 13. 2012 18:46


Rehor

Originally Posted by SysT3ms

Conversion rate 200% doesn´t work

Prove it.

  • Re : Conversion rate 200% doesn´t work

    04. 13. 2012 19:55


Gtdawg

You can guarantee that you've never seen me in a battle room? Well, I mean, outside of playing on a different server...

  • Re : Conversion rate 200% doesn´t work

    04. 13. 2012 20:36


fallenson

Originally Posted by Rehor

Originally Posted by SysT3ms

Conversion rate 200% doesn´t work

Prove it.

You say it does. Present evidence.

This games numbers have, since I've started playing(2008), been shady. The xp rate, the conversion rate, the sailor death rate, always mirky. Un-announced changes have been made in the past. I personally think its wrong to have such shody numbers especially in the case of conversions since it invovles peoples hard earned money.

Stright-forward factual formulas and numbers should be presented by SDE. No, not some numbers posted by "this guy" who got them from "that guy from way back when". Official, dated SDE statements.

  • Re : Conversion rate 200% doesn´t work

    04. 13. 2012 22:20


EricIdle

Originally Posted by fallenson

Originally Posted by Rehor

Originally Posted by SysT3ms

Conversion rate 200% doesn´t work

Prove it.

You say it does. Present evidence.

This games numbers have, since I've started playing(2008), been shady. The xp rate, the conversion rate, the sailor death rate, always mirky. Un-announced changes have been made in the past. I personally think its wrong to have such shody numbers especially in the case of conversions since it invovles peoples hard earned money.

Stright-forward factual formulas and numbers should be presented by SDE. No, not some numbers posted by "this guy" who got them from "that guy from way back when". Official, dated SDE statements.

 

This is rather cute.

Name me a game, a single game, that gives you an exact formula for xp gain.

 

Good luck.

 

@OP: In your situation, I would have invested 40 olives for a three-day premium. Makes a difference of +50% conversion.

  • Re : Conversion rate 200% doesn´t work

    04. 14. 2012 00:52


EricIdle

To put it as mildly as possible, yes there seems to be a probability that the vet conversion rate is not increased to 200%. I bought three days' premium (so conversion rate 300% in total), and tried to take three engies lvl 42 from 50 vets to more...

Result: 28 tries (280 experts) yielded 40 vets in total, giving one engy 20 vets more and the other two 10 vets more each.

 

For all us superstititous players, I did that after a won battle where I made nice damage.

 

For sailors that low and for that low number of vets, this is ridiculous.

 

I don't feel like converting anymore - this looks like daylight robbery.

 

Little calculation: 4 conversions out of 28 tries gives a 14.29% success rate. Divided by 3 (for the event and prem) gives a 4.76% base success rate for a lvl 42 sailor with 50 vets. That is really shoddy.

  • Re : Conversion rate 200% doesn´t work

    04. 14. 2012 01:50


quietcos

I agree with urEnemy, fallenson and the general senitment of this thread.

Although I have no first hand experience of rolling in this event (I just buy vets up to 109 and leave it at that), I do think it would be better is some of the more tangible aspects of NF (such as vet conversions rate and ability caps) were published.

The reasons for this are:

If ability cap for certain abilities can be determined empirically. Therefore there is no reason to keep them secret. The only purpose it serves is to waste people's time (and when I say "people", I mainly mean richardphat). Publishing those values would assist new players in understanding the game, and reduce the amount of misconfigured ships, eventually leading to greater enjoyment of the game for all.

The conversion rate - although it hasn't (AFAIK) been determined emperically - is analogous to craps at a casino. If you went to a casino to play craps and the house hid the results of the dice throw... would you play? I don't think so. By showing the results of the chance event both teh house and the player benefit. The benefits because they can play without feeling like they are being ripped off. And the house benefits because a happy customer is a repeat customer.

But who am I kidding? SDE are not at all interested in customer service. All they care about is raping themselves in the arse, and taking us with them.

  • Re : Conversion rate 200% doesn´t work

    04. 14. 2012 02:51


mako089

50-70 vets from 100 experts  on each of my 5 sailors level 80+ starting at zero vets.  Far better than normal.  Seems to be working fine (Event+Prem).

  • Re : Conversion rate 200% doesn´t work

    04. 14. 2012 05:00


Gtdawg

Originally Posted by fallenson
Originally Posted by Rehor
Originally Posted by SysT3ms

Conversion rate 200% doesn´t work

Prove it.

You say it does. Present evidence.

That's not how the burden of proof works. If you wish to disprove something, then you present evidence of your affirmative statement.

You don't go "this is what I believe. you prove me wrong". That's just silly.

Also, from the posts in this thread, it looks as though several people are converting just fine. 

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