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  • Conversion rate 200% doesn´t work

    04. 13. 2012 06:05


SysT3ms

Dear Navyfield,

I burned 1000 experts (600 in KM sailors with 120-150 vets and 400 in sailors with 160-170) and only 10 experts has been promoted to veterans.

Also I burned 300 experts in two sailors with less than 100 vets and 40 has been promoted.

I think it is unacceptable, the conversion rate is not boosted and of course I will not use in this event the 5000 I still remains in my storage.

Yesterday I spent 1200 olives (previously bought, dont get it by trades) in experts packs, but with these conversion rates and already 5 bb6 I am thinking seriously dont spend more money, at least in experts, for a very long time.

If this is the way you have to earn money I think you are absolutely wrong.

Regards,

An angry player

 

  • Re : Conversion rate 200% doesn´t work

    04. 14. 2012 05:02


Gtdawg

Originally Posted by EricIdle
Little calculation: 4 conversions out of 28 tries gives a 14.29% success rate. Divided by 3 (for the event and prem) gives a 4.76% base success rate for a lvl 42 sailor with 50 vets. That is really shoddy.

Why did you divide by three?

You got 4 conversions out of 28 tries for a 14% success rate. That is many times higher than the normally expected success rate. 

  • Re : Conversion rate 200% doesn´t work

    04. 14. 2012 05:03


Obergrattler

http://www.themathpage.com/arith/percent-with-a-calculator.htm

  • Re : Conversion rate 200% doesn´t work

    04. 14. 2012 05:31


EricIdle

Originally Posted by Gtdawg

Originally Posted by EricIdle
Little calculation: 4 conversions out of 28 tries gives a 14.29% success rate. Divided by 3 (for the event and prem) gives a 4.76% base success rate for a lvl 42 sailor with 50 vets. That is really shoddy.

Why did you divide by three?

You got 4 conversions out of 28 tries for a 14% success rate. That is many times higher than the normally expected success rate. 

 

Come on Gtdawg, make just a little effort.

That can't hurt the brain too much to

1) read properly what I wrote

2) understand the difference between your average success rate at one specific point in time and the BASE rate of conversion which is correlated to sailor level and number of vets already present.

So yes I had to divide by three to account for my 300% conversion rate modifier (200% event * 150% premium)

  • Re : Conversion rate 200% doesn´t work

    04. 14. 2012 05:49


Gtdawg

I'm glad you have already proceeded in to the "You are stupid, I am smarter than you. Learn to read" argument.

Unfortunately, you are complaining about a 4.75% success rate which is many times higher than the expected success rate. That being 1-2%.

But, hey, you know WAY more about this than I do. *eye roll* 

  • Re : Conversion rate 200% doesn´t work

    04. 14. 2012 08:51


Rehor

Originally Posted by fallenson

Originally Posted by Rehor

Originally Posted by SysT3ms

Conversion rate 200% doesn´t work

Prove it.

You say it does.

Prove it.

  • Re : Conversion rate 200% doesn´t work

    04. 14. 2012 09:10


EricIdle

Originally Posted by Gtdawg

I'm glad you have already proceeded in to the "You are stupid, I am smarter than you. Learn to read" argument.

Unfortunately, you are complaining about a 4.75% success rate which is many times higher than the expected success rate. That being 1-2%.

But, hey, you know WAY more about this than I do. *eye roll* 

 

I actually didn't call you stupid, if you read well. I asked you to make an effort.

Most people aren't stupid, they are just a bit lazy.

 

Now the "expected success rate" you give with 1-2%, with all due respect, is wrong, plain and simple.

The 1-2% might be correct for overvetting, but not for low-level sailors with 50 vets only. And you'd find lots of people here who would confirm this.

At this level, the base conversion rate would be about 5-10%. The BASE rate, that is, the % before the event and prem boosts to the conversion rate.

  • Re : Conversion rate 200% doesn´t work

    04. 14. 2012 10:31


fallenson

Originally Posted by Gtdawg

Originally Posted by fallenson
Originally Posted by Rehor
Originally Posted by SysT3ms

Conversion rate 200% doesn´t work

Prove it.

You say it does. Present evidence.

That's not how the burden of proof works. If you wish to disprove something, then you present evidence of your affirmative statement.

You don't go "this is what I believe. you prove me wrong". That's just silly.

Also, from the posts in this thread, it looks as though several people are converting just fine. 

My comment to Rehor was in reply to his usual sophisticated trolling. The OP provided his assumption based on his experience. Rehor knows fullwell that Syst3ms can't "prove" it since only SDE knows the value of "x".

I know how the burden of proof works.  Observational selection; you are doing it right.

  • Re : Conversion rate 200% doesn´t work

    04. 14. 2012 14:25


Gtdawg

You're

  • Re : Conversion rate 200% doesn´t work

    04. 14. 2012 19:24


captaincvfd

Its Luck

So just like Gambling do not risk more then you can afford to lose 

and just like at a casino the odds do not favor you 

have burned a lot of experts for very little return but it does add up

  • Re : Conversion rate 200% doesn´t work

    04. 14. 2012 19:56


mako089

The problem is in the title.  Saying the conversion rate 200% doesn't work FOR ME would be the way to go.  I could have just as easily taken the results from my 5 sailors and said the real conversion rate is 50-70%.

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