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  • Bizzie 43 first impressions.

    01. 11. 2013 05:21


SSN762

 Well, its a very nice ship.  For the record, I'm using EBVE at lvl crew ranging from 82 down to 79. 4 Engys, 2 reps and scout. Gunners are irrelevant as the OPro trip guns are the guns we all know.


Speed is 35knts with .3 belt (don’t go there, I don’t care) and 62 bulge before I dropped a knot.

Fun ship! Probably the best thing that came out of this event.  I recommend it!

 

  • Re : Bizzie 43 first impressions.

    03. 22. 2013 18:22


Derm

Originally Posted by richardphat

It`s a slow brawler, this is what Rehor and I intended.

Because aiming is so easy with those gun and anything in range will just be a prey.


There maybe something lost in translation here. While I appreciate the endeavors of all involved in the sometimes thankless work that goes on with ship balance etc, the Bismark is by no means a brawler.
To say brawler, suggests that it can give and take punches in a slugging match. It may dish them, but it cannot take them and i dont think that I am being pedantic.

  • Re : Bizzie 43 first impressions.

    03. 22. 2013 21:35


Rehor

Originally Posted by Derm
Stuff


Bismarck 1943 is not a submarine.

  • Re : Bizzie 43 first impressions.

    03. 23. 2013 05:44


Sonlirain

Personally i'd rather have it use normal duels and go 42 knts instead.
Sadly it goes 39 no matter what guns i use on it (it might go 40 with 11" but that's just silly). 

  • Re : Bizzie 43 first impressions.

    03. 23. 2013 10:48


Rehor

Originally Posted by Sonlirain
Personally i'd rather have it use normal duels and go 42 knts instead.
Sadly it goes 39 no matter what guns i use on it (it might go 40 with 11" but that's just silly).


KM BB3 x2 Weight: 2600
KM BB3 x3 Weight: 2700

It was decided very early that the triples would be allowed.  Obviously some speed variation was preferred but logistically impossible without affecting either the stock Bismarck and the event Gneisenau (duals) or the stock O Pro II and the event O Pro II (triples).

  • Re : Bizzie 43 first impressions.

    03. 23. 2013 12:29


Derm

Originally Posted by Rehor

Originally Posted by Derm
Stuff


Bismarck 1943 is not a submarine.




Aaah, thats where I was going wrong, I must have drowned a hundred officers trying to submerge her.

  • Re : Bizzie 43 first impressions.

    05. 20. 2013 13:38


andy25

sometimes i believe that ppl expecting a perfect or OP ship when they got a EBB ship.

i dont own a Bissy 1943, would love to get one. cause i love my normal bissy...and the gneisenau-ebb or opro-2 ebb..all of them are just great. and i am sure that the h41 or the bissy-ebb are very well too! in case that it can carry the 3x15" is it a dangerous enemy.

i started with KM when i started with NF. i hated and loved it. but it needs skill to handle KM. KM is not for everybody.

can anyone gimme a bissy1943? :-D i want one>!

 

btw..i am back and playing some matches, after a break of 3 yrs.

  • Re : Bizzie 43 first impressions.

    05. 22. 2013 17:53


jedizorro

Originally Posted by richardphat

Originally Posted by McTass

Originally Posted by richardphat

It`s a slow brawler, this is what Rehor and I intended.

Because aiming is so easy with those gun and anything in range will just be a prey.

but.. shouldn't a brawler be tough? like Queen Elizabeth it's a long range hard hitter, but QE can also stand some hard hits. i saw bissy 43 get easily oneshotted by every BB5, and it has no chance against BB4s. Giving bissy some toughness to make up for slow speed and the low OH Ratio, thus giving a chance against BB4s, it would make it too unbalanced for BB3s and lower?

 

The QE is a bugged ship, it's a BB2 with nearly top BB3 range. It's an exploit, in which people abused and everyone do it.

EBB4 were never balanced to fight against BB4/5, just like stock BB3 get raped over by BB4.

 



I'd suggest anyone claiming QE is a bugged ship try to use QE with at-level crew. Maybe you'll have a second thought.

QE is one of the smallest BBs in the old 4 nations, but not anymore when MN and RM came out.

QE has a near-BB3 range, true, but have you considered the typically horrible, horrible reload time of RN guns? Basically, when QE hits other ships once, other ships can hit QE twice.

Have you also considered the horrible, horrible spread of 15*2 MarkIII guns with at-level crew? If you class your gunners as Acc Huge Gunners, you may reach Acc cap at early lvl70s but you do realize the sacrifice on the reload time, right? Basically you wait 10+ seconds for the 2nd salvo. Very bugged? I highly doubt so. If you class your gunners as Rld Huge Gunners, ok you may reach reload cap earlier but have you thought about your spread?

I admit that putting lvl120 crew on QE would make QE a little bit overpowered, but you don't see that often. Plus, QE can never AW with either at-level crew or lvl120 crew, so it's very easily one-shot by other ships. On the other hand, top damage from QE's 15*2*4 is around 30k (and you need to be really, really lucky to reach that damage with one salvo), which means QE cannot one-shot any other BB. Last but not the least, QE runs 35 knt at top displacement, 37/39 (I cannot remember clearly) as SW, so it's really not that bugged. Even if someone wants to level up some new crew with the help of lvl120 gunner and engineers, he's more likely to use PBB Dunk than QE to be honest.

All in all, QE is still a balanced ship with at-level crew. 

  • Re : Bizzie 43 first impressions.

    05. 23. 2013 04:55


erul_78

Use it, love it. Bismarck 1943 need skill to show its power. Good to backup BB4 and BB5 in fight. Not good in rushing. Yes, it is a weak ship but in good hand it will terrify even a BB6. Got more damage but less range...

  • Re : Bizzie 43 first impressions.

    06. 18. 2013 07:13


UssSeawolf

Originally Posted by NIborGER

Hey what do you think?

Bismarck1943 is a EBB3 and a real nightmare for anything that has BB3 or less range. Even EBB4s have barely a chance against it. Compare it with maryland, le Havre, Mutso, Vailant Izmail 1916, Guilio Cesare 1914 or Provenze and you will see that you have a pretty good ship in your hands. 


 totally agree with this. having both bissy & H41, and the bissy is a terror, when she hits, ennemies are feeling their pain. but you have to play it in real KM style.

this is not a frontline ship

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